Is Marciano...

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  1. mcvey

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    Okay, lets look at that 22 fight winning streak.
    One was a middleweight.
    Eight were light heavies.
    The good heavies on that list are,Henry,Valdes, Baker ,and Dunlap. Total 4
    Here are some of the resumes of the other heavies
    Toxie Hall a full time sparring partner 8-3-2
    Spaulding26- 23-1
    Buford 22-20-7
    Ansaloni 2-0-0
    Dugan 5-0-0
    Now his winning streak after Marciano.
    King31-7-5
    Dunlap30-12-1
    Daniels28-11-1
    King32-8-5
    Bean 41-24-5
    Parmentier17-12-4
    Andrews14-11-1
    Thompson 9-12-5
    Pompey LHVY
    Parker28-5-4
    Shire debut Wrestler
    Anybody on that list 12 fight Moses Itauma would not be favourite to beat?
     
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  2. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    His hand speed wasn't as bad as youd think in his younger years. During his later years like 54 55 etc he stopped putting everything into all of his punches, so they'd be slower sometimes. He threw wide, looping punches around guards very frequently, so the travel distance was long, which may have given the illusion of slow-ness. But he wasn't actually all that slow. He actually could throw pretty explosive tight knit punches occasionally (in his younger years), but preferred moving in explosively with a wild looping punch that would escape a fighters peripheral vision ideally.
     
  3. mcvey

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    I've been waiting for you to show up!lol
    Has Choc lab left? How about Rocky Jim?
     
  4. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    I havent seen Choc Lab in a while, Rocky Jim i think still posts? Idk theyll probably come in and say something insane, like "Marciano beats Lennox Lewis"

    my bad on being late to this inane thread, i check this place less often as i did in my youth. lack of free time, and i get tired of having the same discussions every month. Gotta defend the man who got me into boxing every now and then though
     
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  5. vargasfan1985

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    You admitted he beat good contenders

    Thank you
     
  6. vargasfan1985

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    I didn’t say you were a casual, specifically.
     
  7. vargasfan1985

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    Boxers do this all the time. I fail to see the problem. He took more money for a more prestigious fight.
     
  8. vargasfan1985

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    I think knocking off the number 1 guy when being the number 1 guy meant something is still a huge feat for Moore, especially since he was older and mostly a LHW.
     
  9. mcvey

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    No ,but it was me you were referring to. If I'm a casual ,what does that make you?
     
  10. mcvey

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    Yes ,but you tried to made it look like he was eliminating all the ranked contenders just prior to fighting Marciano,whereas in fact he beat just one in the previous 3 years prior to his title challenge and just one after.
     
  11. vargasfan1985

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    I never said you were a casual
     
  12. vargasfan1985

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    So what? In Moore’s run, he beat Valdes twice, TWICE, and then Baker.

    Also, Moore beat Valdes the SAME year he challenged Marciano, 1955…and Baker only the year before that. So it wasn’t the previous 3 years, lol. It was within the last calendar year. Maybe you need to go back and check the dates. Moore beat Valdez and Baker in a span of 14 months. Where did you get 3 years?

    Moore was the undeniable number 1 man.
     
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  13. mcvey

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    QUOTE="vargasfan1985, post: 23432847, member: 27202"]So what? In Moore’s run, he beat Valdes twice, TWICE, and then Baker.

    Also, Moore beat Valdes the SAME year he challenged Marciano, 1955…and Baker only the year before that. So it wasn’t the previous 3 years, lol. It was within the last calendar year. Maybe you need to go back and check the dates. Moore beat Valdez and Baker in a span of 14 months. Where did you get 3 years?

    Moore was the undeniable number 1 man.[/QUOTE]
    Baker wasn't ranked in that unbeaten run.
     
  14. vargasfan1985

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    Baker wasn't ranked in that unbeaten run.[/QUOTE]

    Huh? Baker was ranked in the END OF YEAR 1954 ratings by Ring Magazine, so he was ranked that same year EVEN AFTER he lost to Moore, in 1954. I am not looking at monthly ratings, but even if Baker fell out of the top five or 10 right BEFORR his loss to Moore, he obviously got reinserted back into it quickly after the loss. Either way, it’s a good scalp on Moore’s résumé.

    Also, Bucceroni was rated number 3 after he lost to LaStarza, so that pours cold water on LaStarza losing to him and Bucceroni being a nobody, which someone in this thread claimed.
     
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