Is Margarito the new HAGLER?

Yeah, Hagler was definitely more hittable later in his career. He used to have those good parrying skills, but was getting tagged more from about 1984-on.

Given Margarito's style and how long he's been fighting, I think it's impressive that he's able to fight at this high level at age 30.

 

Don't ever compare Margarito with Hagler.

Total disrespect to an ATG.

 

I have issues of The Ring where Hagler gets similar recognition to Margarito, pre-Cotto. Not saying it means much, but you never know.

I'm sure if ESB was around in the 70's, people would have said "No chance" to Hagler ever being an ATG.

If Margarito cleans up the division, who knows...And I think that is possible, by the way.

 

Hagler was not a popular fighter and the media absolutely did not like the man.

Margarito on the other hand has a whole country behind him.

There is a HUGE difference between the two situations.


You don't become an all-time great by beating one over-rated fighter. (Cotto)

 

If he beats ten more real contenders we can start talking.

Right now, in accomplishments, he is light years from Hagler.

Toe-to-toe, he is nothing compared to Hagler. Hagler wasn't a brawler, he was one of the most complete fighters ever, a versatile counter-puncher who could swith stances.

 

Castillo abused his weight however, and that ultimately affected his conditioning and longevity in the sport.

What has been proven time and time again is that a boxer who respects his body even outside of the big fights will last longer than others. It could be argued that Hopkins is still in the game only because of his consistent work in the gym. Of course that is just one example but Margarito has a similar approach to being in the gym all year around. His conditioning, even at 30, is unmatched.

How many 30 year olds do you know that can throw over 1000 punches in a fight?

As long as you stay on point you will stay sharp. That is true of almost anything in life. Boxing is really no different. When you consistently break away, you withdraw from the mentality and it takes a little out of you each time you reconnect. In the end it simply becomes too painful or too much of a psychological drain to keep warming back up. You don't train as hard, you aren't as fast anymore and you don't have the necessary energy.

 

Excellent post!
What happened to JLC last night was hard to watch.

 

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Actually, Cotto has been very over-rated for the past couple years.

He is an excellent fighter, but the fact is, people were calling him a great fighter before he had earned it. Due to that fact, he "was" over-rated. You don't call somebody an all-time great before he has ever taken a belt from a champion in his entire career. Cotto has never even beat "the man" of a division in his entire career.

His loss to Margarito finally brought him and his fans back down to reality. He's a good boxer with a suspect chin, leaky defense, and stamina issues. Not even close to being an ATG. He is a very good and exciting fighter, that is it.

It's not hindsight for me, I've always felt Cotto has been over-rated... especially by most of his fans. Calling him an all-time great and one of the p4p best, is WHY I consider him over-rated. Not because of his actual ability.

I'm a Cotto fan by the way.

 

Hagler was better. Marg is very good but Hagler was incredible.

 

Margarito's wins over Top10 contenders: Cotto, Cintron, Clottey, Cintron, Andrew Lewis.

Hagler: Sugar Ray Seales, Willie Monroe x2, Bennie Briscoe, Hamani, Bobby Watts, Alan Minter, Obelmejias, Antuofermo, Hamsho, Lee, Sibson, Scypion, Roberto Duran, Roldan, Thomas Hearns, John Mugabi.

*In the 1970s, fighters fought more often. The context was different, but still you can notice that Hagler is light years from Margarito.

 

No...Marg's special attributes are his chin and stamina...aside from that he is nnot a special fighter...

He is just willing take one to land one...

 

I agree it is impressive. Though his style usually catches up to a fighter all of a sudden. Love watching him as long as he sticks around.

 

Manny Pacquiao is another guy whose longevity I'm very impressed with.

The guy has a very active style, constant movement, lots of energy expended, tough fights. He's been fighting on a world class level for a decade.

 

I never questioned his conditioning. The guy is a beast much like Hopkins is a physical freak of nature.What I was stating that as a fighter ages, no matter how in good of shape or how skilled they are, punch resistance deteroirates.....especially swarmers and sluggers since they tend to take more clean shots to the body and head. I like Margarito alot, but his style isnt made for a long career.