Is Mark Breland the right man for the job? (disregarding the towel throw)

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  1. speedbaggage

    speedbaggage Member Full Member

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    With all the controversy are the throwing of the towel and whether Mark Breland is retained etc. I started to wonder how good is he as a trainer? We know his boxing pedigree. We know throwing the towel is was a humane thing to do. We know how difficult Wilder is to coach. But is Mark Breland the right trainer for Wilder? Breland is going to emphasise the fundamentals in camp like he always does, and we will see the same Deontay Wilder when he fights Fury again.

    Is he the right man for the job?
     
  2. lucky luke

    lucky luke Active Member Full Member

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    If that really is what he and Wilder has been working on the last plus ten years then: no.
     
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  3. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I doubt Wilder applies what he's being taught, or just isn't coordinated enough, not good enough....
     
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  4. channy

    channy F937 Full Member

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    Breland may not be the man for the job, but at this stage with Wilder who is?

    You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink it springs to mind...
     
  5. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Question should be is Wilder trainable
     
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  6. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Member Full Member

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    Wilder is a stubborn idiot and I don't see anyone being the right trainer for him.
    Nevertheless if I were him I'd consider replacing his trainer. Not Breland though, the other one. The Kiefer Sutherland look alike.
     
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  7. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very physically burn you Full Member

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    You can lead a Wilder to the boxing gym but you can't make him follow simple pad drills.

    Man's a moron, and he's stubborn and uncoordinated to boot. What the hell can you do with such raw, dross-like material?
     
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  8. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very physically burn you Full Member

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    Deas is sadly probably the best fit for Wilder. He's been with him since the beginning and seems to know how to get him to do as he's told.

    Nothing Breland teaches him seems to penetrate his skull.
     
  9. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Honestly I don’t think anyone new would help Wilder at this point if anything they’ll probably confuse him. At this stage of his career he’s going to automatically resort to what he knows and he seems somewhat delusional and is probably saying to himself that he doesn’t need to change anything that it was the suit, had an off night, or he was injured or sick. Time will tell
     
  10. speedbaggage

    speedbaggage Member Full Member

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    Just for the laughs and wwe drama I'd love to see Wilder hire Ben Davison for the rematch. I know he wouldn't take it, but it would cause some major crazy havoc. The lead up to that fight would be mental.
     
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  11. channy

    channy F937 Full Member

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    Tell him to fcuk off and only come back when he wants to take things seriously, and to leave all egos at home....
     
  12. channy

    channy F937 Full Member

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    Very.
     
  13. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Active Member Full Member

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    This should be the real question. No matter what they were teaching in camp as long as Wilder was able to be bailed out by the right hand, he was never gonna apply it in the ring. Breland was a fighter who was tall for his division and has the background to help Wilder. Losing was probably what Wilder needed to learn his lesson..
     
  14. Cally

    Cally Active Member Full Member

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    Breland was sharp, for my money he realised long ago that wilder couldn't get the basics down to any decent level so concentrated on that right hand show stopper, it's all they could work on wasn't it, which is pretty evident to everyone by now, I would think.
    They worked on it so much toward the 'end' wilder would do nothing other than stand there round upon round waiting for an opening to land a right hand.

    Poor, was always going to get found out.
     
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  15. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no. fire the whole team. Jay Deez, Mark Breland all of them... they didn't adjust to the rematch, didn't offer any instructions to Deontay during the fight.