Is Marlon Starling underrated????

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Longhhorn71, Aug 19, 2012.


  1. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The 80's had some very good welterweights on the scene.

    The Starling version that beat Breland twice and k.o.ed Honeyghan was at the top of his game.

    45-6-1 final record.
     
  2. Meazy-E

    Meazy-E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No he usually get rated about right, and gets his fair share of credit.
     
  3. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's not so much underrated as he is under-talked about.
     
  4. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He didn't have the most inspiring career outside of the dominant win over Honeyghan. Nothing much came off it which is why he tends to be forgotten.

    A most difficult kind of opponent he was though. Never allowed himself to be hit unnecessarily, except after the bell, which is unfortunately one of the things that tends to get talked about more when it comes to Starling.
     
  5. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Looking at the lists in the best 30 fighters from 1980 list makes me say he is.

    As A says alludes to though, he could have had a better career and lost a few he shouldn't have, so that doesn't help.
     
  6. A.J.

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    Terrific fighter, probably under-rated since many today don't even know who he was, and he could do it all.

    Problem was, he lost to Donald Curry twice by decision (no shame in that), lost to a couple others he shouldn't have. Makes me think he wouldn't quite have been able to beat the elite welters, none of whom were there for Starling to fight after Leonard-Duran-Hearns all left the division in 1981-82.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Well, bar him pissing about (a recurring theme) I felt he could've beaten Curry first time. I had it a draw.

    Yeah, a few losses on there that maybe could've been avoided. But the third best welter of the 80s for me. Came back from setback after setback.
     
  8. Sister Sledge

    Sister Sledge Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was one of the best Welterweights of the 80's. Even though he had a good record, it would have been better had he not clowned around so much. He pretty much gave the away the first fight with Curry. He should have kayoed Johnny Bumphus. The ko after the bell, should have been a dq of his opponent instead of a no contest. A lot of his misfortunes happened because of his abrasive personality.
     
  9. Flea Man

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    In Starling's defence he was just starting to figure out Bumphus when the cut happened. Agree though. Often he was his own worst enemy, but he overcame all of that eventually when he dethroned Honeyghan.
     
  10. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    he is where he should be. The Molinares and Curry fights define him a little. I don't say Molinares hurts him a lot, but it does not help. He was a very very good fighter and at welt. he would give anyone trouble, but a fast fighter would beat him-example Curry.
     
  11. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah he's under appreciated.

    Didn't catch a lot of breaks in his career.

    Held his own with Curry twice, really beat Breland twice, should have got the decision against Blocker, would have beaten Bumphus had the fight continued, was unlucky in the Molinares fight and gave Michael Nunn all he could handle.
     
  12. Flea Man

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    Yeah, at the end of the Nunn fight Moochy was pushing Nunn back, in his first middleweight fight against a big 160lber.

    As for the Blocker fight, I had it 115-113 Blocker. He just about outworked Starling IMO.

    I felt he clearly won the 2nd Breland fight. Pure negativity from the big man there.
     
  13. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That was a **** poor effort by Nunn and one of the first clues (along with the Barkley snoozer) as to just how overrated he was.

    As for Breland, he had that silver spoon in him. A pity for Marlon's sake.
     
  14. Flea Man

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    Hate it when the Barkley fight gets used as a good win for Nunn. Sumbu lost, on my card, one round over 15. Nunn looked a shell at that stage agreed.
     
  15. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no , it is a clue 2 how drained he was .
    D man was 165 in d amateurs prior 2 turning pro . Then , since initially he could fit at 160 he had a couple of goos showings there but he quickly outgrew d weight .