Is Marquez greater than Pacquaio, Barrera and Morales

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Yes he's beat pac 2-3 previous times & this was his statement win.In terms of greatest Mexicans.1Sanchez,2Chavez,3.Marquez,4.Finito,5.Morales,6.Barrera

He's surpassed pac,morales,barrera.

 

No one is greater than Morales.

 

:rofl:rofl Are you joking? Marquez has more exiting fights than Morales and Barrera, watch Diaz vs Marquez 1, that fight was a TRUE NONE STOP ACTION FIGHT, no clinches what so ever, unlike Barrera-Morales 1, which was another Classic, but the reff had to intervene plenty of times.

Count CLASSIC fights. Marquez has as many as Pacquiao. Watch and do some Boxing research ffs, you can't just post bull**** and try to get away with it. Come on lets be Bonxing fans. Marquez is just as great as Pac, you don't like it, oh well.

 

You said that exact same thing last time Marquez beat pac. Now Marquez wins by KO, guess that means nothing.:bart

 

:rofl Nah, man I don't know what kind of Mexicans you were around, but Barrera was loved, Morales hated by most Mexicans around me, and believe me they are far from middle class, to this day, Morales is still a little punk in Many Mexicans eyes, I remember how they would called Morales, a "coward" for Boxing and using movement and not going toe to toe with Barrera in some exchanges, out of the 3 Mexicans, Barrera was #1, Morales the hated #2 and Marquez did not exist.

 

:rofl Don't even get me started with this ****, :yep All those 5 fighters had over most of Marquez's opponents was a RECOGNIZED NAME, they were well known in the Boxing world, but De La Hoya was not even top 20 at 147. Tony was not top 30 at 154, Shane wasn't top 20 at 147, , Ricky did nothing after that loss, Cotto was the best name of the 5, Marquez has Pac.

Also beating a fighter who's not even ranked among the top 20 fighters at 154, let alone top 4 does not make you an "eight division world champion", that's fantasy only real in Pacland.

 

Greater than Morales and Barrera. But not Pac.

 

Pacquai is by FAR the best fighter out of the 4. Marquez just matched up brilliantly agaisnt Pac, anyone saying he won all 4 fights need to get their heads tested. He won the last 2, the first 2 could have went either way. Wins against one fighter do not make you better overall, styles make fights. Like some one said previous is Tarver better than RJJ?

Pacs wins:

Morales x2
Barrera x2
Marquez (i give him 1st fight, 2nd drawn, 3&4 JMM)
Larios
Diaz
Hatton
Solis
Ledwaba
Cotto
Bradley(clear win for pacquaio)
Margarito
ODLH
Clottey
Mosley

JMM:
Pac x 2
Katsidis
Diaz x2
Barrera
Casamayor
Cris John(i gave him that fight)

Morales
Pac
Barrera
Hernandez
Jesus Chavez
Ayala
In-Jin Chi

Barerra
Morales x 2
Ayala
Hamed
Tapia


Its clear to see that Pacquaio is by far ahead of the pack in terms of greatness, the other 3 are inter changable how ever way you look at it. And by the way Morales is my favourite all time fighter

 

Pacquiao will always be a long way ahead of the other three.

After that, I'd go Marquez, Morales and then Barrera.

 

Pacquiao clearly rates ahead of the other three on the all-time great lists, but head to head, I think all are more or less in the same vicinity at their respective peaks. Marquez rates higher than Barrera or Morales for me, though. The welterweight conquests over Pacquiao put him over the top.

 

H2H

Marquez
Pac
Mab/morales

Career wise

Pac
Marquez - in the end of the day years from now, pac will be rated higher in terms of accomplishments, marquez had a good few fights left though, should have fought khan when khan was on top, bradley and guerrero still doable or try to fight floyd again, I think he would fare better this time. Floyd is clearly past it

Barrera/Morales - morales used to above barrera but I think they are about equal because of the drug cheat scandal

 

No..

 

Fair post but marquez is clearly ahead of the other 2 right now, he has been for me after the 3rd fight. This was a past prime pac but so was he, the win certainly boost his standing specially the manner of winning even if pac was past his best. I think marquez could be the new hopkins, still deadly and I'd pick him to dominate everyone south of 147, although he would beat guerrero and bradley