Is Marquez greater than Pacquaio, Barrera and Morales

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  1. LordJomski

    LordJomski Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How many future of hall famers did Marquez beat aside from Pacquioa? :think

    And compare it to Pacquioa? :think
     
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  2. JoeCamelTow

    JoeCamelTow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    4 fights in 8 years at multiple divisions with a concussive ending.

    that's 27 rounds to 15 plus one huge KO.

    JMM is greater than Pac and also is ahead of MAB and Morales in my book.
     
    JoeCamelTow, Dec 11, 2012
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  3. Skullrip

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    four times lol! JMM was even lucky to get a draw on the first because of a scoring error. 2 was close, but 3 was decisive in favor of pac. in the fourth pac was winning the rounds contrary to what you hoped, until that ko.
     
    Skullrip, Dec 11, 2012
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  4. Imperial1

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    Hell no !Great fighter but not greater than those 2
     
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  5. natep

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    Better than Pacquiao? No, Pacquiao had feats that Marquez can't accomplish at the present time (age). Pacquiao took on De La Hoya, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, and so forth. That's pretty damn impressive coming from a 'smaller' guy. Despite the incredible win and Marquez being a personal favorite of mine, he isn't greater than Pacquiao. Barrera and Morales? I believe so.
     
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  6. JoeCamelTow

    JoeCamelTow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That "smaller guy" angle is something for some of you to hold on to.

    All those names you mentioned were either shot or taylor-made for Pac.
     
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  7. DrBanzai

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    JMM beat Pac once, lost to him twice and drew with him once. JMM is a very good fighter but he is not better then Pacquaio, Barrera and Morales.
     
    DrBanzai, Dec 11, 2012
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  8. JoeCamelTow

    JoeCamelTow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ONE OF THESE EQUALS 100 bogus scorecards!
     
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  9. kirk

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    I just dont know anymore :lol:

    Its a big cluster **** to rank those 4.

    Imo
     
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  10. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Pac by a mile.


    Ponder this for a second: Marquez versus De La Hoya, Margarito, Clottey, and Cotto at welterweight.

    Think he takes all four easily (as Pac did)? Even the recent hulk-like version of Marquez?
     
    conraddobler, Dec 11, 2012
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  11. kirk

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    Theres a reason he never did that in their primes.

    Argue that all you want, but its the truth.

    And when discussing these 4, one win h2h isnt the say all.

    Its not hard to realise these 4 are hard to split.

    Though I am starting to lean towards two groups..... JMM/Pac > Mab/Morales

    sucks because I like morales the most out of them all.... but thats the way Im starting to see it.

    But JMM needs to do more then just beat Pac in his career. Thats what holds him back... hes a great fighter but his entire mission in life has been to beat Pac. Something Morales was able to do in Pacs prime. And outside of that, hes got the Salido win, and the Diaz wins and a few other noteworthy fights but it starts to dim a little.

    Idk, I just think these are hard fighters to seperate.
     
    kirk, Dec 11, 2012
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  12. kirk

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    JMM beat Pac in their third fight, no question.
     
    kirk, Dec 11, 2012
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  13. bobotnaman

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    that's 4.


    btt,
    FAB 4 of our era.
     
    bobotnaman, Dec 11, 2012
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  14. Redondo5

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    Pac acheived the most and beat all 3 of them. Although Marquez is the best of the Mexicans, although it's all very close.
     
    Redondo5, Dec 11, 2012
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  15. dogcatcher

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    Despite this weekends results I still Rank this "Fab 4" , based on H2H and overall accoplishements.

    Pacquiao
    Marquez
    Barrera
    Morales
     
    dogcatcher, Dec 11, 2012
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