Is Marvis Frazier underrated?

Marvis was living off his father's name, he was hyped...................when he stepped up as a pro he was a failure............

 

Beating someone in the amateurs does not mean you'd beat him or even be competitive with him in the pros. The amateurs and pros are toally different. The rules are different. The duration of the fights are vastly different. Strengths that work for a guy in the amateurs may not work so well in the pros.

Aaron Pryor beat Thomas Hearns in the amateurs. Would he have beaten him in the pros? not much of a chance. Page beat Tubbs almost every time in the amatuers. Tubbs won a pretty easy decision over Page in the pros. Howard Davis was an awesome ameteur. He never won a pro title.

Witherspoon would be a horrible matchup for Marvis Frazier in the pros. Tim held a big wieght and strength and power advantage. As others have noted, Frazier liked to chug in and fight close, like his dad. This would play right into Witherspoons hands. Tim would block the majority of Marvis's arm punches, than counter with his explosive right hand. Good night. Witherspoon would likely stop Marvis by the mddle rounds.

Tubbs would use movement to box around an onrushing Frazier for an easy decision.

Your claim that "there wasn't much difference" between Marvis and Joe Frazier is absurd.

Joe had much greater punching power and a better chin.

You say "Marvis only lost to two ATG."

Yes, but he was anniliated by them in less than one round.

And Holmes was no puncher. It was the only time Holmes retained his title by first round KO. And he fought a few stiffs like Zanon and LeDoux. Even Leon Spinks, who was jaded and as small or smaller than Marvis lasted longer.

 

Marvis was never much of a fighter.

 

Beat funso Banjo.his lad is Ashley from Diversity.strange but true.

 

Please read Meet Marvis Frazier: The Story of the Son of Smokin' Joe if you want information that would be helpful in your understanding of Marvis Frazier - as a person and a boxer. It would be a shame if this fine man (and very good boxer) is forever judged only by his relationship to the great Smokin' Joe. Thank you (PS. The book is available on Amazon and as an e-book)

 

Yes.He was a decent fighter

 

Very curious what Marvis could've made of his career if he continued. Without a doubt more suited for Cruiserweight but if he stayed as heavy and continued I wonder how he could've done in the WBA picture. I'd have to favor all the WBA heavyweight champs of the time to beat him.

 

Marvis was a better fighter than his record indicates, I think - and would have been able to demonstrate this if he fought at cruiser instead of heavy. Bottom line, he just didn't have the chin for the HW division.

 

He's somewhat underrated, but he did what he could with what he had. Probably should've been a cruiserweight.

 

No.

 

I used to watch Marvis in the gym.
What changed Marvis was Joe. When George Benton trained him he had Marvis using a style that best suited him.
When Joe took over he squared Marvis up and put more of a crouch in him and just ****ed up his style.
Marvis was better under George and would have been interesting where he would have wound up had George been his trainer his whole career.