Is Mayweather the best Super Featherweight ever??

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    :patsch

    You're a sad soul...
     
  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    A 37 year old past his prime PBF at 147 has no bearing on what a prime 130 pound PBF would do to EM or MAB at 130, they're not the same fighters one was prime the other wasn't.:deal If you can't get that basic concept through your head then log off now.
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Yes but PBF would have beaten them both there as well and would have been the favorite and rightfully so.
     
  4. Mr_Harry

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    You racist
     
  5. papolamuerte

    papolamuerte Yo soy La Muerte! Full Member

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    Who Danny Garcia at the end of his career, I know you hang from PBF's nuts bro but c'mon. There was no way PBF could had beaten Morales, both at their peak. You know that.
     
  6. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When you rate someone's greatness in a division, I think you have to take into account their body of work in that division and combine it with the talent of their opposition, and how they fared against that opposition. Ray leonard might have the best quality of opposition at WW, but Ray RObinson had top quality COMBINED with a long reign in the division.

    Floyd went 27-0 with 20 KO's at the SFW division. That's a pretty nice reign in 1 weight class, he won the SFW title in his 18th pro fight and defended it 9 times successfully against the best in the division. He was never really in a tough fight for those 5 plus years.

    Morales campaigned at SFW from 2003 to 2006. He had SEVEN fights at the weightclass, going 4-3 in the division (he also lost to Raheem at LW before going back down to SFW and losing to Manny twice in a row.) So in that timespan, he went 4-4 in those 8 fights with 2 wins against guys Mayweather had already beat.

    I don't know how you can make a case for Morales whatsoever. Going 4-3 in SFW fights compared to a guy who went 27-0 in the division. Sure, he fought a better quality of opposition, but he was barely a .500 fighter in the division.

    Also, another major variable IMO is H2H. How would these guys fare against one another? IMO, Mayweather would've toyed with a SFW Morales. But that' s just my opinion.
     
  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is exactly the logic of Floyd superfans.

    Floyd never beat a prime ATG.

    So what's their rebuttal???? "Well Floyd wins H2H"

    How in the HELL doe these guys know if Floyd would beat an ATG at their best?
     
  8. IsaL

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    If he can beat the great Diego Corrales, Marcos Maidana, Miguel Cotto, and a Demarcus Corley, surely he can beat any ATG.
    :deal
     
  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's hilarious. It shows how little they understand.
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Keep dreaming you don't even believe that and wouldn't put a dime on Morales in an actual fight just more wishful thinking by a PBF hater. After the fight you'd be full of excuses claiming PBF ran EM was injured or something. PBF would be the favorite in this fight EM can't handle lateral movement, Raheem gave that boy that work and he lost to MAB 2x got Koed by Pac and got busted for PEDS. He's a borderline ATG never in the running for the best fighter of his era. You're crazy, PBF is light years better than Morales one a borderline ATG the other a top 20 ATG, no contest.:deal
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    EM and MAB are border line ATGs they're not that good just fought in a "fan friendly style" And got exposed when they stepped up.:deal PBF would have made easy work of those two he's much better they're not in his class. He's a stylistic nightmare for both especially MAB who I think he would stop.
     
  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Morales has two wins over two different prime ATG fighters. He is about as legit of an ATG as possible.

    And here you go again with the "Floyd would win".

    Morales at his best was an ATG. Floyd's never fought one of those.

    Don't be so quick to rush to judgement.
     
  13. AT6TillInfinity

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  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Who would be the favorite in those fights dummy?:hi: You can't make a case for MAB beating PBF at 130 period.:deal PBF has been undefeated in 3 different decades at 5 weights and just took apart the so called fighter of the decade but yeah he can't beat lesser guys like Morales and MAB, at his best weight, log off.
     
  15. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Floyd and Azumah Nelson at his peak would have been interesting.