is Mayweather the Greatest of all time ? why or why not?

It takes one glance at Grebs record to realize there is no way in hell of overrating him the only thing we can do is underrate him... Get a clue about boxing then post somemore...atsch

 

Somebody posted this in classic a little while ago maybe you should have a little look you'll probably have no idea of what your looking at but give it a go

Greb defeated such Hall of Famers as:
Kid Norfolk
Mickey Walker
Gene Tunney
Tommy Gibbons 2x
Mike Gibbons
Tommy Loughran 4x
Jack Dillon 2x
Maxie Rosenbloom
Battling Levinsky 6x
Jimmy Slattery
Billy Miske 2x
Defeated such champions (at one time or another) as:
George Chip 2x
Al McCoy 2x
Johnny Wilson 3x
Mike McTigue 2x
Notable Heavyweights defeated:
Bill Brennan 4x
Jack Renault
Charley Weinart
Gunboat Smith 2x
Homer Smith
Martin Burke
Willie Meehan 2x
Bob Roper 6x
Other notable victories:
Clay Turner
Tommy Robson
Silent Martin
Joe Borrell
Leo Houck 3x
Soldier Bartfield 3x
Eddie McGoorty
Gus Christie
Terry Martin
Buck Crouse
Frank Mantell
Willie 'KO' Brennan
Jeff Smith 6x
Jimmy Darcy 2x
Chuck Wiggins 8x
Billy Shade 2x
Lou Bogash
Bryan Downey
Jackie Clark 2x
Frank Moody
Ted Moore 2x
Jimmy Delaney 3x
Augie Ratner 2x
Jack Reddick
Roland Todd
* Of Greb's 7 losses during this run -- 3 are considered, at least partially, controversial. (Vs Gene Tunney (2/23/1923), Vs Tommy Loughran (10/11/1923), Vs Kid Norfolk (DQ, 4/19/1924.)

 

Listen noob you've seen no Greb fights, he lived in a time when strength+conditioning was pushups and 10mile runs, they fought fights at a much slower pace back then, he'd get taken apart by any of the top middleweights today.

 

Noob....c'mon man your better than that :-(

Do you have any actual facts or reasoning behind anything your saying i gave a list wheres your iron clad facts?, you've just said some stuff that dosen't have anything behind it...

How do you know they fought at a slower pace?
Did you study Grebs training routine?
And finally you must have seen him fight to know he'd be taken apart by any middleweight today right?? So i guess you've seen Greb fight then??

 

I've seen him spar, he's slow as hell.

 

thats play sparring with an old man, dont be willfully ignorant

 

He thought of Jack O'Brien as a father figure he's not going to go full out on him, and if you think that was proper sparring and a gauge on how he would fight i can't believe i've been arguing with you for this long you obviously don't know anything, they didn't even have headgear on not even sure they had mouthpieces in...

 

How about you open you're eyes and realise anyone who claims Greb is greater than Mayweather: doesn't know **** about boxing, has never boxed, dislikes Mayweather, is a wannabe elitist, will probably consider all the old timers as greater than the crop of the last 20 years. Honestly chap you need to wake up to whats real, this is a boxing site there are alot of people who don't know **** but talk **** and can't back it up. I mean you really think half of those dudes in the classic forum know what they speak? they just read **** on the internet or from books and live in some fantasy world where carmen basillio is a great middlweight atsch :rofl

 

Read my above post, 1890's greb was born yet you think he could keep up with a sergio martinez for example? GTFO he'd be overwhelmed by speed and power that they just didn't have back then. Sorry to burst your bubble.

 

So then what's your reasoning for Mayweather ahead of Greb?

 

Holy christ atsch
I think you just beat MVC out for dumbest poster i guess Sergio Martinez ranks higher than Greb for you as well....

 

He has never lost a fight yet has faced the best possible opposition for 15 years. He is a defensive wizard, highly accurate, quick hands, great footwork, phenominal stamina, he made the great fighters of his era look ordinary. DLH Mosley Cotto JMM Hatton Hernandez Corales Castillo he made them all look like basic figters, all while being the smaller man except for against JMM.

What did Greb do? Beat a bunch of bums, I mean back then fights WERE fought at a much slower pace and they didn't heavy the same fitness levels as today, you cant tell just by watching them fight he lost 8 fights and got knocked out twice.

I mean I respect the fighters from back then enormously they fought so often and nearly killed each other, but its a different ball game nowadays totally different ball game.

In every other sport athletes become bigger better stronger, break records and are considered superior to there predecessors, exept in boxing give me a break.

 

Greb likely would put his foot up Sergios ass.

 

In what ****ing universe did Greb fight bums are you literally a ****ing ******ed person?, he has thee best record in boxing history. I think you need to stop talking you sound like a dumbass and i think no one on this site will agree with you unless it's MVC and even im having doubts that he would agree with you...

 

Agreed he fought guys way above the level of Sergio and beat them...