Is Mike Tyson a Top Ten heavyweight alltime?

Interesting. Spinks would do very well in todays era and would not be a round 1 KO victim for Wlad.

 

So this is your reply now? you keep ignoring my largely edited post, bring 2 quotes which I stand corrected about them, and ignore my last post completely unless quoting it is replying to it.
As long as you "have teh last word"

 

i like your argument... Tomasz adamek did beat Kevin Mcbride who did beat Tyson

 

Easily.

He dominated an entire division, unified the crown, and did it all by the age of 21. Few champions have claim to have dominated their era in such fashion and virtually no one did it within that short stretch of time.

 

Contrast Tyson's superb finish of Thomas to the wild, amateurish windmill punches Wilder used to try and finish off a beyond-shot Audley Harrison. I mean, I was literally laughing out loud.

 

Did you come up with those heavyweights who had a better stretch than Tyson did between 86-89?

Is Wilder your answer?

Exactly who has he beaten on the level of a Spinks, Berbick, Tubbs, Thomas, Tucker, Bruno, Ferguson, Green, Smith and Holmes?

 

Unfortunately that answer won't work because he'll simply say those guys were bums. Let's see if we can do that same with another all time great.

Joe Frazier was a one eyed, one trick pony who only weighed 205 lbs at his best and was decked by Bonavena. George Foreman had no stamina and was beaten by anybody who could stand up to him.. Sonny Liston? Old and hadn't fought in a year. Jerry Quarry? are you kidding me?

I don't really feel this way about these fighters, but its just an example of how selection bias can certainly be used to tell a good story.

 

You're just saying the same thing over and over again. Keep if between Spinks and Haye and quit going of the beaten track.

You are in no position to say Haye would of beaten Fury as a fact. The man ducked the fight. You have no argument against that. None. His actions tell the truth of the matter. Not what you are fabricating.
Tyson and his rib injury does not apply because Tyson went on to fight Holyfield twice.
Haye has openly admitted he wil never fight Fury.

The word got that that Fury was looking like Larry Holmes pre-fight in camp . Cunningham gave an interview praising Fury and picked him to knock Haye out. He'd know more than you and he had no reason to lie because only a few months before , he was couldn't stand Fury and called him a bum.
Haye got worried and jacked it in. He can be seen in training blowing out his ass crack just doing pad work with Boothy.
Your opinion means nothing here, Haye ran from Fury and thats the end of it.

Haye is a pretender . A part time boxer. Full time celeb.

You have no arguement to why he is a better win than Spinks.

This is over.

Spinks> Haye.

Now on to Holmes -Thompson.

You say The Tiger is a better win than Homles. How?

 

No sir, it was not.

Not close, and I'm a longtime fan of both K brothers.

Wlad's competition is nowhere near as bad as some on here would have you believe, but it has been, on aggregate, a full level, maybe two levels, below what Tyson dealt with. I agree that (present) Wlad probably prevails over all on the list but that's not a certainty, and the point is, he didn't.

Mike did!

And in far more dominating fashion than present Wlad would have done.

Wlad has longeviity, but Mike had a clearly higher level of competition and, for the four years in question, a more explosive and dominant record of victories.


Not more than half a dozen HW champs in history had a four year run as good as that.

 

ok, lets play a little game.

who would have beaten Tyson had it not been for the elbows? Please elaborate in detail each fight.

even better, i dare you to start a thread on it and call it '... would have beat Tyson if it wasnt for the elbows'

See how far you get.

your the same guy who made a comment in the general that most Tyson fans like him because hes the daddy they wish they had.

your full of ****, a liar and a hypocrite and you know it.

gtfoh with that lame ass elbow story

 

whilst mike is obviously in the h2h top 4 or 5, his 'ATG' legacy is tarnished by a horrible downward spiral after the age of 25. So hes no way top five, and scrapes into top ten.

 

Jack Dempsey went 4-2 after turning 25... with those wins coming against no hopers and/or Greb victims.

 

Look who is using these words.