Is Mike Tyson rated fairly?

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  1. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes he was, he was one of a bunch who never stood out.
     
  2. Sting like a bean

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    Okay, so let's say by ranked contenders, you mean the top ten. By definition this would mean that Douglas is ranked around five, if he's average. If it's a pool of 100 contenders this would have to place him around 50.
     
  3. Sting like a bean

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    That's entirely contingent upon how you define the bunch.
     
  4. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    You're being a bit obtuse about it. I think it's easy to see I mean that in context, he is only on par with contenders of any era. As in he defeated and lost to the other contenders in his era, just like an average contender would be expected to do.
     
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  5. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    TL;DR there's no tangable proof he was anything special.
     
  6. Sting like a bean

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    No, it's really not easy to see what you mean. It's best to just move along to the question of how Douglas was ranked from, oh, 1987-90. The three year bracket is arbitrary, but this question has clear enough truth conditions and the answer should speak for itself.
     
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  7. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    He fought his way to a challenge for the title. What is your point? Numerous other contenders have also achieved this feat. It doesn't signify any special qualities that Buster Douglas has that other elite fighters didn't have.
     
  8. Sting like a bean

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    What would you say is the ratio of fighters who never reach a title shot to those who do?
     
  9. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    I have no idea, and also fail to see the relevance. What is your angle? Do you think Buster Douglas is a great of the sport?
     
  10. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    Really didn't envision this derailing into a Buster Douglas debate. Strange direction.
     
  11. Birmingham

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    If you couldn't see fear in Bruno in the rematch, your either terrible at reading people, or the biggest most biased Bruno fan of all time. Petrified is a better word !
     
  12. Unforgiven

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    It shouldn't, and it doesn't.
    It's a matter of who you're ranking him against though. When you're measuring a champion against the very best champions of all-time, it's likely to weigh quite critically against him.
     
  13. Birmingham

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    So did Lennox. H2H best ever in most peoples eyes. Taking a loss don't mean ****
     
  14. JohnThomas1

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    Putting Tyson 5 isn't totally outrageous. You could build your criteria around that position. I wouldn't have him that high personally.

    We have the same exact top 4 and 9 of your 10 would be in mine.
     
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  15. Unforgiven

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    If taking a loss don't mean ****, what would be the point in winning ?
     
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