Is MMA in the West growing, at its peak, or dying?

Yes, co-workers are the types of people who pay the bills and buy the tickets and are still talking about Liddell. And Im not trying to argue money with you. Just trying to point out that more people tune in when there's a mean looking guy knocking people unconscious. Brock looked to fit the bill for a while, and people keep tuning in hoping GSP will get back what 1st broke him through in the Hughes rematch. But it doesnt mean they will keep tuning in indefinitely and there are very few, if any aside from Cain, who can take up the same mantle

 

ufc ppv numbers have been steadily dropping for years, boring ass **** watered down cards fulled of hugging and kissing ruined the sport

**** zuffa

btw the ppv numbers average about 100k, dont believe that bull**** zuffa puts out

 

I'm not arguing any of this but the fact that GSP and Brock may now be on the downward slide does not mean that they didn't replace Liddell. It may mean that the UFC needs someone to replace them ultimately but both of them clearly took the UFC to another level in 2009/2010.

On the "you need a mean guy knocking people out" that is one way to draw money but let's not be too restrictive here. Oscar De La Hoya is the biggest ppv draw in the history of boxing and he hardly fits that description. George Foreman was meaner and knocked people out more destructively than Ali, but Ali was still the bigger draw. Manny Pacquiao is not billed as a mean guy and Floyd Mayweather rarely knocks anyone out but both are still the biggest stars in boxing. There are many different ways that a fighter can connect with an audience and its that connection which matters.

 

Good for them. There's plenty of 3 second clips of wrestlers throwing right hands that they can edit into a 30 second promo to make MMA look as exciting as it once was

Proof in the pudding will be after they tune in to the likes of Kos v Daley and GSP v Shields and keep them there. I guess Dana could pay people to watch these types of fights

 

Wrong on all counts.

Firstly Zuffa don't put numbers out. All numbers are estimates sourced from the cable companies (usually by Dave Meltzer).

Secondly the UFC broke its own record in 2008, 2009 and 2010. This year is a fall due to injuries to key fighters and the loss of BJ Penn as lightweight champion (Frankie drawing less than half the numbers against Maynard that BJ did against him last year).

 

yeah because multi million dollar television deals are signed on dying figures..
your right mate forget the hard facts, id rather get my info from rumours started by trolls on internet forums.. :roll:

 

You mean like the 775,000 who paid Dana to watch Kos challenging GSP after that fight?

 

Chuck v Tito did a Mil + five years ago. Penn and GSP 900 000 in 09.

 

And MMA has who to fit the bill of superseding boxing with the appeal of these 3 men?

 

Why do you keep making the same post, Ive replied already, move on and agree to disagree. Brock and GSP's numbers got them the deal, but I cant see anyome doing the same in the future, no matter how much money Fox throws at it. Now hopefully we get another cross over star, JJ and Cv maybe, but there's no one else imo

But you repeating the same point 5 times in a thread is tiresome

:hat