Is MMA unsustainable as a sport?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by james4210, Dec 14, 2010.


  1. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well there are arguments for lots of different ones; Pankration being the most obvious. Pankration fell with the decline of Greece.

    I just think MMA fits in with the rest of the sports in the world in that they have bits and pieces of other sports that used to exist, but in the modern form are actually fairly new in terms of human society.
     
  2. kirk

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    No real basis for this argument, IMO.

    MMA will be around for a long time to come, and MMA will become (in large part due to the UFC), if it isnt already, the premier combat sport in America, and maybe slowly, the world.
     
  3. iamtheman

    iamtheman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    MMA offers martial artists of various backgrounds a stage to make lot's of money. Wrestlers, jujisu, judo, etc, there's no money in those sports but MMA is giving them a stage to display their skills and love of their sport while actually making decent money. It appeals to lot's of different combat fighters so I think it'll go far in the sporting world.
     
  4. marsupial

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    With the merger of the WEC with UFC it can only get better. MMA is now growing very fast in Canada and in the rest of the world.

    -April 30th 2011 in Toronto Rogers Centre (60,000 seats :shock:) possibly 2 championship fights (velasquez/Dos Santos and GSP/Shields).

    -March 2011 Shogun/Evans and Aldo title defense. For this one it's not mentionned if it would be on the same card, but it was said that they planned both for march.

    IMO future seems bright for the UFC, also adding 2 popular Asian fighters to their lighter divisions.

    P.S.: Sources were from Sportsnet.ca/mma (MMA Connected December 13th episode.)
     
  5. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

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    Thanks for everyone's intelligent comments, I enjoyed reading them. MMA is still the most exciting thing happening in sport, I totally agree with that.

    My question about sustainability was very much focused on the limits and fragility of the human body.

    The recent GSP versus kos fight I think shows one of the weaknesses of MMA. it could be argued that the fight was over after the first jab that broke koschec's eyesocket.

    I loved the whole fight, a douche bag getting a pounding and our hero winning.

    But part of me feels shortchanged, in order to grapple you need small gloves, small gloves cause serious injury and make for short careers.

    Seriously imagine how interesting and enjoyable it would have been compete separately in a pure wrestling, and pure kickboxing, and pure Brazilian jujitsu competition. just think of the skill we would have enjoyed witnessing. and both fighters would be likely to come out largely uninjured.
     
  6. sonyt

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    white sport for the white kids, when the biggest hype is gone, best what UFC can be is something like WWE.
     
  7. Flash Jab

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    I really struggle to understand an anti-mma's purpose of comparing a legitimate combat sport to sports entertainment which is borderline soap opera, god forbid something have high production values and appeal to a macho market.
     
  8. sonyt

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    it's not legimate sport, collegewrestlers with couple of pro fights in MMA are hyped up by Rogan and Goldberg.
    in boxing they would be journeymans.
    and when you ever seen this kind of line up, with white North-American guys in some other sport.

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  9. Flash Jab

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    One's British, one's Canadian, one's Brazilian. I don't see what race even has to do with this, particularly as you've got it wrong, as expected.

    He wasn't a "college wrestler", he was a highly popular well known professional wrestler who beat an official MMA fighter (granted, not a very good one, but still) before stepping into the UFC and beating their biggest competition, that's impressive no matter which way you spin it. Journeymen aren't decided on what their background is, it's decided on how many fights they lose, how skillful they are and what their promoter is like, some people just don't have it. UFC are known for hyping up a popular fighter over a skilled fighter, it's sensible, it draws more people towards its product which is a smart tactic considering a skillful fighter may be less exciting to watch. You give a casual fan the choice of watching a 265lb professional wrestler make his debut against a submission specialist and former UFC heavyweight champion or a GSP or Anderson Silva, ten times out of ten they're going for the freakshow, it's appealing. That doesn't mean it's not a sport, the skilled guys stick around, boxing has had it's fair share of freakshows too.

    I just wish people would enlighten themselves a bit more instead of sitting on one side of the fence. If you like it, great, if you don't, fine, but why does it always have to be about sides? Why does boxing or MMA have to better than one another? Are people so unevolved they can't watch both at once? Do you watch one tv show and listen to only one band too?
     
  10. Stoo

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    :thumbsup
     
  11. Wilhelm

    Wilhelm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is an argument that I've seen people make before. It just doesn't apply. There is no analog in boxing. Because mma has so many different skill sets you have to weigh the capabilities of all skill sets and then add them up to decide if someone is going to succeed in mma or not. Lesnar had a dominate wrestling career and, that being perhaps the most important component of mma, he was able to be successful in mma as well. A better analogy would be something like bobsled; Hershel Walker had no experience in bobsled but was able to succeed in it because components of his football athleticism and training mapped strongly onto bobsled.
     
  12. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You ****ing moron

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  13. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Take your racist ass somewhere else; your ignorance apparently bleeds into every aspect of your life.
     
  14. moreorless

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    MMA isnt racist so much as less of a working class sport than boxing, wrestling is tied to collage and arts like BJJ are much more expensive to train in(alot the the Brazilians we wsee come from middle/upper class backgrounds). I can see that being a potential problem in the future if costs don't come down as it is going to limate the growth of the sport.

    I do think that Lesnar could turn out to be a negative for the sport long term aswell just as Sapp was for K1. Both of them drew massive interest in the short term its true but when Sapps flaws exposed how far beyond his talent he'd been hyped fans reacted agenst it.
     
  15. sonyt

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    i'm white myself, and i could say a lot negative things about blacks.
    but it still does not prevent me from seeing, what's going on in MMA.
    not only UFC, bellator events looks like skinhead meeting.