Is MMA unsustainable as a sport?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by james4210, Dec 14, 2010.


  1. Stoo

    Stoo Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I think you clicked on the wrong forum sonyt
    Here you go [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6[/url]
    Now have fun, atleast you wont be the biggest idiot in the thread if you follow these directions
     
  2. Flyin Ryan

    Flyin Ryan Active Member Full Member

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    What's better, karate or judo?

    Dave Meltzer once did a great article that was an obituary for Helio Gracie (the head honcho behind Brazilian jiu jitsu as a method of self defense) detailing the birth of mixed martial arts and how the martial arts business was always based on myths where you'd have instructors with records of 1000 wins with no losses, but people from their own disciplines would stay away from the people with other disciplines because there was so much money to be made in the self-defense instruction business, and if it was determined karate was better than judo for instance, well why would anyone take judo classes? That was part of the genesis of the original UFC, UFC 1. It was also for Royce Gracie to show the superiority of jiu jitsu by winning the tournament and showing his martial artform was better than the others and then make more money selling Gracie jiu jitsu for self-defense classes.

    Will it go away? I don't know, I think it could definitely decline just as boxing has. However, when you look at demographic studies, the average age of your MMA fan is far younger than the average age of your boxing fan, so based on demographics they look to be in good shape unless that audience decides they don't like the sport anymore. It's also less ethnic-based. Meltzer also once did a study on the type of people that visited sports sites for the leagues as a case in demographic study. He focused on UFC, Strikeforce, WWE, and TNA, because that's his job for what he covers, but he also did the American big four sports and he chose Golden Boy Promotions' site to be a surrogate for boxing. GBP's site viewership in North America was 61% Mexican and was much older than anything else in the study except baseball.
     
  3. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    there's an element of mma which is older than 99% of all sports...wrestling. And if we look at all the other disciplines...we realize that there's nothing really new about it...it's only repackaged...under different rules & a different name.


    Judo...created in 1882


    Wrestling..."one of the oldest forms of combat with references to it as early as the Iliad, in which Homer recounts the Trojan War in the 13th or 12th century BC. The origins of wrestling can be traced back 15,000 years"


    Sambo..... " began in the early 1920s by the Soviet Red Army"


    Muay thai.......", it can be traced back using records to 400 years ago"



    Boxing , Jiujitsu , kickboxing , karate...etc..also can be used under mma rules.


    MMA is just a platform where different styles & disciplines are put to the test
     
  4. Spunik

    Spunik Well-Known Member Full Member

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    this thread is not sustainable...
     
  5. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    Nothing is sustainable.
     
  6. Flyin Ryan

    Flyin Ryan Active Member Full Member

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    Entropy is sustainable.
     
  7. snakey112

    snakey112 Active Member Full Member

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    this is ****ing bollocks
     
  8. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    sport is a business now and it doesn't matter how brutal it is and how much blood is spilled.

    if people watch it it will stay mainstream.

    the good part of that is that people like anderson silva and BJ penn get the credit they deserve for being some of the most talented and disciplined athletes that ever lived.
     
  9. Matt Ldn

    Matt Ldn Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The advantage MMA has over boxing is that it is new. With it being organisation run there is less cherry picking and fighters take on the best. This does lead to belts being passed around more but that is always going to happen in a sport with so many dimensions compared to boxing. Without the money grabbing promoters and agents i think there is universal agreement that boxing would be a far better sport than it is now

    People who compare ufc to wwf are just being ridiculous these people have legitimate credentials in other disciplines. Anyway look at Valuev as an ex-heavyweight champion and tell me without his sizeable advantages hed be anymore than a national champ at best.

    I think if MMA stays organisation maintained and steers clear of a money focus then it will continue to rise until the reports of early onset parkinsons start to come out and then well see how good the ufc et al. foundations are.