Is Nino Benvenuti an ATG middleweight?

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  1. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where do you rank him? He won a gold medal in Rome in 1960, was a middleweight champ probably would have held the title quite a bit longer if not for Carlos Monzon.
     
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  2. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No.

    Nino was lucky he had a 3 fight series with an undersized MW Griffith.

    Nino was getting severely challenged by other fighters late in his career.

    He turned down a defense against an old Curtis Cokes.
     
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  3. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    HOF, definitely. ATG, no.
     
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  4. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    No.
     
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  5. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well his resume shits on Bernard Hopkins', if that means anything.
     
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  6. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Not really, since Hopkins would have torn the kid a new *****.
     
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    What Hopkins would or would not have done to Benevuti has absolutley no bearing on his resume.
     
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  8. Korean Hawk

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    Benvenuti is a great Middleweight for sure. I find it hard not to think that.
     
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  9. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes.
     
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  10. itrymariti

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    How surprising.
     
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  11. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes he was.
     
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  12. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "All-time great" is a big word. It is often forgotten that Benvenuti was more of a light middleweight for most of his career. He went 65-0 until losing the light middleweight title, and then 18-6 after winning the middleweight title, with wins over former welterweights Rodriguez and Griffith.
     
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  13. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Th reason i brought up Nino was about a month ago I saw a program about him on ESPN classic. The show talked about his training , boxing career and had interviews with Nino. I read up on him a bit and found that he is very close friends with Emile Griffith and was close to Monzon until Monzon's death. Seems like a very nice classy guy and great boxer.
    If he isnt a top 10 ATG, would he be in the top 15, maybe top 20?
     
    GoldenHulk, Sep 5, 2010
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  14. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Like TGA said, ATG is a strong word. Anything outside of the Top 10 is not ATG-level, and 160 isn't among the more talent-stacked divisions in history. (Lightweights hovering around the 15-20 mark are finer fighters than Nino.) Those calling him an ATG need to pull out a list of Top 10 (more likely Top 7-8 ) MWs and justify him being in it.
     
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  15. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No. Lists are sh*t.
     
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