Is Ortiz an overrated, overhyped, untested glassjaw?

Yes !

 

U are correct, but it's not his fault his resume is thin. That doesn't take . away from him being a good fighter. Hopefully these other HW fighters step in the ring with him now.

 

Ortiz's claim to fame is beating Jennings whose claim to fame is lasting 12 with Wlad in his last ever win...

 

I haven't noticed anyone beating down Ortiz door to fight him.

 

I'd like to see him fight Kownacki

 

Ortiz is decent but has been grossly overrated by some fans. People say nobody wants to fight him , Joshua gave him a great offer and he turned it down.

If the money was good to face him which it isn’t , more people would fight him.

 

Both of Ortiz's performances against Deontay Wilder will likely look much better as the years go on and Wilder cements his all-time status.

Who knows, Luis Ortiz may go down as the guy who won more rounds against Deontay Wilder over those two fights than anyone ever will.

He was certainly the guy who came closest to stopping Wilder.

Fury didn't.

 

My point exactly.

 

He was overrated after the Jennings fight, but has been underrated ever since being associated with Wilder, whose dectators knew that Ortiz was a dangerous opponent for him and they hated that he was taking on a dangerous opponent in a voluntary defence so they’re been desperate to belittle him.

Ortiz wouldn’t be a champion in any other era(unless he caught Stiverne, Charles Martin, Maskaev or Michael Bentt), but he’s as good of a contender as anything the division has to offer.

 

Sconiers was probably closer. According to Wilder himself his lights went out in that fight.

 

you could apply this logic to Fury also then.
Fury was dropped hard against Cunningham who is a cruiserweight, was taken the distance and roughed up by Otto Wallin, was gifted a decision against McDermott earlier in his career, beat a gun-shy Wlad by points with the fewest punches landed of any world title fight in recent times (landed less than 100 punches to win the titles!)

Performed brilliantly against Wilder but knocked down twice, Ortiz performed brilliantly against Wilder as well but failed to get up.
Bottom line is both are elite heavies, Fury in the top bracket and Ortiz just a level below. Maybe if he was younger he'd be up there too who knows.

Top guys all need to fight each other, good thing is they all are now so by this time next year we'll know who the best really is.
FWIW i think its Fury lol

 

He's 40 years old, ffs. What do you expect? He had more than 400 fights as an amateur, fought +30 fights as a pro. He's in the last stage of his career and he probably retires now after the payday vs. Wilder 2. Of course he can't take the same amount of damage like at 34. He's the best boxer in the division if it comes to pure skills, world class counterpuncher but of course he's too old. He came close to stop Wilder in the first fight and he boxed his ears off in the second. Where's the problem? He's not the first guy Wilder put to sleep and most likely not the last.