Is Oscar an Atg or just HoF

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  1. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How high do you rate Oscar de la Hoya? a lot people say he lost most of his big fights but some of them many people argue he deserved to win(Trinidad, Mosley 2) and if there's someone who fought everyone availabe it was him, so high high would you guys rate him?
     
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  2. Imperial1

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    Hall of Famer for what he accomplished All time great for the attention he brought to boxing ..
     
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  3. DanishFightfan

    DanishFightfan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Basicly this..
     
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  4. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i can agree with that but not many people accomplish world titles in 6 weight divisions
     
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  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    It shows you that weight jumping is highly overrated nowadays. It's more impressive to dominate one division and be an ATG there, in my opinion.
     
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  6. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    That
     
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  7. Gonzarelli

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    Biased BS. Some of his peers are considered sure fire ATG's based on what they accomplished and DLH accomplished more in some cases.
     
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  8. Imperial1

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    Now your knitt picking ..I won't disagree either way ..
     
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  9. IsaL

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    ATG, top 30.

    Accomplishments:

    10 time world champion
    25 Titles fights won
    6 division champion

    Cleaned the 147 division in 2 years.
    Unified 154 division.

    Moved up in weight and dethroned WBC Jr. WW champion
    Moved up in weight and dethroned WBC WW champion
    Moved up in weight and dethroned WBC Jr. MW champion

    Fought and beat these champs:

    Jorge Paez
    John John Molina
    Rafael Ruelas
    Jesse James Leija
    Genaro Hernandez
    Miguel Angel Gonzalez
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    Pernell Whitaker
    Hector Camacho
    Ike Quartey
    Tito Trinidad
    Shane Mosley
    Arturo Gatti
    Ramon Campas
    Javier Castillejo
    Fernando Vargas
    Ricardo Mayorga


    If he's not an ATG then who the **** is today?
     
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  10. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    ATG, 6 weight champ, 10 time world champion.

    Ok then.
     
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  11. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    Atg.
     
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  12. IsaL

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    Weight-class jumping is overrated, but in Oscar's case, at:

    135 he beat Jorge Paez, John John Molina, Rafael Ruelas, Genaro Hernandez, Jesse James Leija...Legit Lightweight Champion.

    140 he beat Julio Cesar Chavez, and Miguel Angel Gonzalez...Also legit Jr. WW champion.

    147 he beat Pernell Whitaker, Ike Quartey, Tito Trinidad, Hector Camacho, Julio Cesar Chavez, Oba Carr, Arturo Gatti...Also Legit Welter Weight Champion.

    154 he moved up and beat Javier Castillejo, Yori Boy Campas, Fernando Vargas, Shane Mosley...unified the division...Legit Jr. MW champion.

    That is weight humping at its finest...Not like having one stupid fight against a titlist who probably doesn't deserve to hold the strap and then skipping town...like other fighter(s) have done.
     
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  13. TG1

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    Atg
     
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  14. IsaL

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    most cases. :deal
     
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  15. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Show me 80 fighters who have accomplished more than what I posted...I'll wait. :deal
     
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