Is Pac developing stamina issues?

so let me guess this straight, the ******s who accuse pacquaio of being on steroids say it give him extra stamina to train harder and longer are no saying he has stamina issues?

are you ****ing people for real, it cant work both ways. according to the ******s, pacquaio has EXTRA stamina to fight longer due to the steroids and now this that he is tired?

 

hey don't **** up my odds

yes pac is finished everyone yes of course

 

I didn't see him getting tired in the Cotto fight. I saw him getting bored of chasing Cotto around the ring.

 

This must be a joke. You do know that EPO gives users crazy stamina, don't you?

 

exactly, cotto was just looking to survive

 

I don't know if he is losing stamina. I also think it appears as if he is losing some 'dynamism'.

I'm unsure whether this is merely an illusion due to a change of game plan for the opponents since DLH, or if he is beginning to show signs of the weight gain as he approaches the Welter limit himself (is his best weight class 140 or 147?).

The way he was on his toes, constantly moving, in and out and laterally against DLH, hasn't been there since.
You could argue it didn't need to be and he could get away with less mobility than usual.

He appears to be throwing less punches too. He was throwing around 90 punches per round average against Diaz I think, about 75 for Oscar and around 65 for Cotto. Isn't the Welter average somewhere around 63? For a reputed volume puncher, that isn't as high as you'd have expected if correct.

These figures are subjective of course, an opponent's style could influence these as much as a fighter's own conditioning, as well as different game plans.

Anyway, I think the question of whether we will see the same Pacquiao that fought DLH or lighter fighters again is valid. The Clottey fight will be interesting as you could see the same tactics used against DLH being successful here, so this might show whether or not Pac can still perform like that.

Two more things:
-Why does Cotto get so much stick for 'running' from Pacquiao in that fight? He has been a '9 round fighter' for a long time now. Look at the Mosley fight - a fight he was winning. He did the same thing. I think it's mainly conditioning/stamina, partly tactical. Cotto would have boxed backwards from round 9 or so regardless and the ref shouldn't have stopped the fight in the 12th for that reason. It was the same pattern as usual.

Cotto would have likely survived and there was enough damage done to stop the fight earlier if that was the concern.

- Manny was frustrated at not being able to catch Cotto and didn't seem able to do much about it. He needs to learn to cut off the ring a lot better if he's going to fight Floyd.

 

He cant cut off the ring.. that is all. With all that roid rage he needs a steady target to beat on. Not to much thinking goes on in that huge dome of his when he is in that "zone".

 

PED / steroids generally tend to do that to your stamina. Just look at Fernando Vargas in the late rounds against Oscar.

 

Yeah because his footwork is so sloppy right. GTFO

 

PED / erythropoetin is used to increase stamina.

You saying now that he's on steroids and not EPO?

 

and the corner, don't forget the corner and all were 1 second to late

 

Hmmm, maybe but he could still turn it on and finish the fight.

 

Watch the second Barrera fight and the Cotto fight as clear ****ing proof. The second Barrera fight he was confused as **** when Barrera would not engage and could not back him in the corner if his life depended on it. Look at that mother****ers face in between rounds.

 

Look at his face? LOL that mother****er is still winning rounds EASY. So whats the problem exactly?

You can't say he can't cut off the ring when either way he was banking round after round against both Barrera and Cotto and actually ended up stopping Cotto.

You don't know what Pac would have done if they were actually doing anything to win the rounds. At the end of the day what I see is a bunch of pathetic Pac haters saying that Pac was being outboxed and look lost in some rounds that he was winning one after the other.

 

:rofl You silly son of a ***** *******. Pac loses more rounds than any other top fighter. The fact that he gets a knockdown or two saved his ****** ass from sure loses. Marquez won more rounds. The Barrera fight was closer than the scorecards depicted as Pac did not or could not do ****. The mother****er has his flaws. Keep sucking on that tranny dick pac pacifier and when that roid train derails we will see who is who and what is what.