Is Pac/Martinez realistic??

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  1. wooootles

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  2. Abdullah

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  3. lufcrazy

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    You hit the nail on the head. I wanna see him in a fight he actually has a chance of losing.
     
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  4. Real_Truth

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    Maybe he should fight Wladimir...he has a chance of losing that and maybe make more money in return?
     
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  5. Real_Truth

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    The hate is strong with this one :lol: The sad thing is Pac probably enjoyed ass ****ing your Mexican boxing heroes. :yep
     
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  6. wooootles

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    Yeah, but you don't want to put him against a guy who outweighs him by 20 lbs on fight and nearly as fast. By that logic, Roy Jones vs Lewis or Klitschko is totally legit because he got a belt from a gatekeeper.

    Floyd Mayweather is the only opponent for him that he has a good chance of losing AND in his weight range.
     
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  7. lufcrazy

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    As I said before, I rate pac very highly. I'd give him a 45% chance vs martinez. Good odds to secure a goat legacy!
     
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  8. osreyes77

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    He was written off in most of his past fights.

    Oscar is too big and will kill Pac
    Hatton will man handle Pac and beat him up on the inside
    Margarito is way too big for Pac and will hurt him.
    Cotto is too strong and if he catches Pac with a bodyshot its over


    Lets not act as if Pac was a heavy favorite in these fights.
     
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  9. lufcrazy

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    Nah he blitzes floyd. I like to see him challenge himself. Obviously you don't.
     
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  10. osreyes77

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    :deal. Lets hope Joyboy Sinclair gets his urge back once he returns from his vacation.
     
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  11. lufcrazy

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    You don't make sense. I said earlier he already has great victories to his name.

    Only pac haters think margo was too big. Anyone not blinded by hate could see that pac would smash him to bits.

    Same with mosley. As I said, I probably rate him more than you do. I think he is leagues above every active welterweight right now. Which Is why I want him to move up to 154.
     
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  12. osreyes77

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    U said u want to see him in a fight that he actually has a chance of losing.

    Well the fights I mentioned above, many people had Pac losing prior to the fights happening.
     
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  13. lufcrazy

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    How many times. Up until margo I agree with you. But margo and mosley are clearly not no his level. Why stop building a legacy? He is no the cusp of genuine greatness. There is no guarantee that floyd will ever come back even if he did, would he be a bigger challenge than martinez? I doubt it. He was ok jumping from lightweight to welterweight. He has proved himself to be a class above all competition at 147. So I say challenge himself some more, take on 154. Prevail in genuine 50/50 fights. Yes it's a tough ask and one he could fail at. But I have faith that he can do it and go down in the goat bracket.
     
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  14. puertorricane

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    Pac will never fight martinez not because of size since he fought margarito who was about the same. But because he knows he cant beat martinez, pac is used to fighting all over the hill fighters not fighters that are at the top of their game.

    :hat
     
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  15. wooootles

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    Mayweather said in his racist rant that Pac agreed to the tests and will fight sometime this year. How true that is, well, hopefully we'll find out
     
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