Is Pacquaio a cheater? A cherrypicker? Or just plain great?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Morrissey, May 4, 2010.


  1. blur

    blur WLADGLASSJAW Full Member

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    the poll standing answers it all!
     
  2. igotJUIC3

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    like someone said he actually is in to deep for him to stop now..he already has said anyone he fights will have to take the test...sooooo i dont see this going anywhere.
     
  3. TonyD407

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  4. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Cheat?

    That was just an act of cowardice.

    The drug tests was just a front, an unreasonable one.

    It is unreasonable because it is passe! It is using a 20th century solution to a 21st century problem.

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    Steroids is definitely out of the question as it is really can be tested with urine specimen alone.


    I started even before the whole ****ing excuse of drug testing that it is impractical.

    Even the people who run thes tests state so:

    Dr. Don H. Caitlin, head of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Lab and for many years one of the most knowledgeable experts in the area - possibly the most knowledgeable – has stated that he believes blood testing is impractical.

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    Growth hormones don't make you stronger: study
    By Ashley Hall
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    Sydney-based researchers have published the results of a
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    The research found that the use of human growth hormones delivered a 4 per cent boost in sprint capacity but did not enhance endurance, strength or general fitness.
    And one subject who was given both HGH and testosterone got more than he bargained, when he noticed he was growing breasts while soaping himself in the shower.
    Athletes have used HGH to boost their performance since the 1970s, but no-one had carried out scientific research until now.
    A few years ago, Sydney personal trainer Scott Andrews enrolled in a study to see what he might achieve with the help of HGH.
    As it turned out, Mr Andrews was selected for the control group. He did not get the hormone but was given some testosterone.
    " I think from memory put on three to four kilos but I didn't notice any change in my strength," he said.
    Professor Ken Ho from Sydney's Garvin Institute of Medical Research is the lead author of the study.
    He says the research team was surprised and delighted by their findings.
    "The improvement in performance was observed in a selective aspect of physical function - that of sprint capacity," he said.
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    So basically, it is just like saying it does not confer any benefit to an athlete not involved in sprinting, or short duration of power and speed.

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    If you become positive with blood, you need to confirm it with a urine tests wheter the increase in blood cells is due to EPO.

    Here is the article :

    EPO is one type of blood doping. Blood doping is illicitly increasing one’s red blood cell supply. Red blood cells supply oxygen to the body’s muscles. Thus, an increased red blood cell supply reduces fatigue by delivering oxygen to the muscles more efficiently. This is why blood doping is one of the most logical illegal means of gaining an advantage in boxing. Training at high altitudes is a licit means of increasing red blood cells and endurance. This is why Big Bear is a favorite training camp of many great fighters.
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    Although more expensive a urine test is sufficient to detect synthetic EPO



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    , it seems that a daily urine is enough!!! The only drawback is the expense. But since this is a multi-million dollar fight, F*&&^&K the xpenses.
     
  5. Kid Cuba

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    :yep
     
  6. miketysonko

    miketysonko Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ppl have voted, time to close this thread
     
  7. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    Only the haters and Floyd dicksuckers insist that he's a cheater and/or a cherrypicker. Glad ESB aren't falling for their ******ed views.

    Nice Poll.
     
  8. Breakdown

    Breakdown Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ****in end it already.. poll wins lol
     
  9. 1HitterQuitter

    1HitterQuitter RUTHLESS BY LAW Full Member

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    Damn it feels good to be a Pacquiao fan
     
  10. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal
     
  11. Jetmax

    Jetmax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's interesting that a lot of people from a certain group didn't vote.
     
  12. Elite

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    He's a great fighter. I was expecting the polls to be biased, but it ended up being pretty good. :bbb
     
  13. crazy8s

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    Pacquiao is great.

    But "I am having a good time" reading the comments of Pacquiao fanatics, pretending that they aren't just as hypocitical as the *****s.

    Every fighter cherrypicks. So it's nitpicking at best to suggest that Mayweather OR Pacquiao succeeded soley because of this.

    As for as the cheating goes... there's no proof. Yea some of Pacquiao's actions in response to that are questionable, but if there's no proof... you can't call him a cheater.
     
  14. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. :deal
     
  15. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Below 135 he's great. Brilliant, all the wonderful thing that are right about Boxing.

    Above 130 he's an example of how gullable the casual fan is, and how a master Promoter can build a phenomena via careful matchmaking and great timing.