I would agree with Max, Pacquiao is top 2 all time, easily the greatest fighter from the last 30 years at least. https://youtube.com/shorts/W50lBLMfaiU?si=SQPC63f_fOdAO-aX
Forgot about how obsessed Max is with calves. Dude talked about fighter's legs all the time on HBO, it was pretty weird. I occasionally like Max and his weird hipster boxing takes before he was ruined by Stephen A. Smith, but this opinion is just objectively wrong, there is no reasonable argument for Pac being above Armstrong, Langford, Greb, Charles, or Benny Leonard and about a dozen other ATGs. Agree he's the best of the last 30 years though.
Exactly. The same thing applies to Mayweather as well. Greatness should be judged by the opponents you faced that were available in your weight class/era. I don't care about fantasy h2h nonsense. Pacquaio did what he had to do with the opponents he had in front of him.
I think that I had him at #13 with Floyd right behind him at #14 the last time that I made such a list.