Is Pacquiao Approaching Legendary Status? Comparison to Leonard.

Pac will definately be remembered for his great fights, no doubt. :good

But I think a fighter is perhaps more "legendary" when their "greatest" fight isn't a "great" fight at all (really), but rather a domination or masterpiece over another great fighter.

If Roy had a brawl with, say, Toney, where the fight coulda gone either way, and warranted a rematch or two - would he be greater than what he is for completely dominating him?

Or does Roy get penalised for his complete domination of his opponent?

I say no. Domination of great fighters is better than going toe to toe with great fighters, imo.

 

How would you know Jones Jr most memorable moment in the ring? You weren't watching boxing before the 2003 match between MAB and Pacquiao.

Tell me, why is the most memorable moment of RJJ's highlight reel the Tarver KO? Is it because it helps and supports the article? Is the most memorable moment in the Pacquiao highlight reel when he keels over from a body shot and crumples to the canvas? How many Jones Jr fights have you seen? How transparent of you to remember the Pacquiao KO's but not the many KO's and spectacular performances of a fighter who named fighter of the decade for the 90's and dominated 3 divisions, AND actually fought men bigger than him. But you can't remember, because you didn't see him.

Did you comprehend what everyone here is saying, or did you ignore it because they posted realistic arguments against the article and bring you back to earth from your distorted view point on where Pacquiao stands in comparison to the greats before him. Greatness btw, is not defined by how many memorable close fights you have. Its about winning and accomplishments in the ring.

 

The article is flawed. If rivalries is such a huge criteria for being legends, Gatti and Ward would rank higher than Jones.

 

Your argument is as bitter as PacD's is biased. Don't be mad because you were wrong.

Pacquiao is Top 50 ATG easy after this win.

But definitely not Top 25, either. To do that, he must:

1) earn the undisputed #1 P4P spot at some point before he retires, or
2) clean house at 135 (beat Campbell, Juan Diaz, JMM moving up in a 3rd bout)

Even then, PacD, I don't think that would still be enough to put him ahead or even equal to SRL. To do that he would have to beat Hatton or whoever the champ is at 140, making him a true 6-weight champ. And unfortunately, I don't see that happening.

 

Never talk again PacD. Never....just leave the site :rofl:rofl:rofl

Jones had been fighting for 15 years when he finally lost, was 34 and past his prime, and because it was on TV,

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:rofl:rofl Perhaps I should only watch the two fights where Pacquiao was KO'd and then say, "Oh wow, he sucks." You have never seen a Jones fight in his prime, and yet here you are dismissing how good he was based on his losses at 34 and 35? BTW, the 2 guys who stopped Jones are far better known than the fighters who stopped Pacquiao right? So your comparison is grossly invalid. But I think you know that.....you didn't compare the best fighters Jones beat with the best fighters Pacquiao beat. You compared the fighters who beat Jones with the fighters Pacquiao defeated.

This post proves what I have said all along. You know absolutely nothing about boxing in general. The truth hurts son, and everytime you speak from now on, I will remind you of the rubbish you just posted.

Lastly, if Jones won't be remembered as a legend, but Pacquiao will, why is it the people who will be doing the remembering (the fans, you know, the people who post here) are all telling you that you're out of your mind? Remember, you're a Pacquiao fan far more than you are a boxing fan. And when he stops boxing, you will stop watching. So you know nothing about what boxing fans think....only Pacquiao fans, and apparently looking at this thread, not even most of them on this subject. Oddly enough, you claim to have stopped watching boxing in the 90's because there was no one as good as SRL and Duran and Hearns. How would you know? YOU WEREN'T WATCHING

 

Wow. Very ill-informed regarding Jones, that's all I will say. And VERY unfortunate that your very first Jones fight happened to be Tarver 2. The guy was a thing of beauty in his day.

 

He has access to other fights. He is purposefully ignoring the glaring weaknesses in his argument so as not to address them. There are Jones fights all over youtube, in his PRIME.

 

Currently, I have RJJ ahead of pac. On my book, if Pac beats JMM convincingly on their their fight hopefully with this year and cleans the 135lbs category I will have PAC ahead of RJJ.

If he wins those fights then we are in for a good and long arguement with the RJJ fans!

Oh lastly, I believe pac should also fight Guzman coz if he wins over JMM and moves to 135lbs and wins over Diaz. Guzman fans will surely CLAIM pac is avoiding him.

I would like pac to fight JMM (if he wins) then fights Guzman (if he wins) fight at 135lbs BUT NOT DAVID DIAZ IMMEDIATLY.

It's like feeding pac in a lions den! Let pac taste the waters first before testing him with the CHAMP! Why rush him anyway?

But first things first. He should win in the PAC vs jmm III. I mean win CONVINCINGLY!

 

If Pacquiao cleans out 135, that is a WHOLE nother story. But he hasn't even decisively cleaned out 130.

And if we start counting beating past their prime greats (JMM is gonna be 35 or 36 next time they fight), then Jones fans get to start talkin about Mike McCallum and Jones' win over him, and his win over Trinidad too....do you think that's fair?

 

The 4th paragraph shows how little you actually know. All you seem to do is pollute this site with Pac-absorbed sewage.

 

Pacquiao doesn't have any fights highlighted. Just different sections on his career. Jones has different sections AND fights highlighted.

Not to mention, why the hell would they just read the one part PacD? If they were boxing fans looking up both fighters, they are going to read ALL OF IT.

 

true that. I don't know anyone who started boxing by first going to wikipedia. Of all places.

atsch