Is Pacquiao in danger of losing his P4P crown?

Not for me, SSM is overrated in the P4P stakes for me.

 

I don't think you understand how the p4p rankings work, possibly because you're a moron. You lose, you drop. Mayweather got to the top by continuing to win while guys like Mosley, Morales, Hopkins, Jones, DLH, etc...lost. He didn't. He got there based on his wins over Hernandez, Chavez, Corrales, and Castillo, as well as winning his 3rd title in as many weighclasses (thanks for the correction). If Hopkins had won he likely would have stayed above him, but he didn't. Them's the breaks.

Winky Wright was number 3 solely on the basis of beating Shane Mosley twice. Barrera was up there despite having lost to Pacquiao in the recent past.

You're going to have to posit someone who, in the middle of 2005, you think deserved to be #1 more than Floyd to get any credibility. I don't expect you to, however, because you're kind of a moron.

 

The P4P spot doesn't change easily. If Mayweatger hadn't retired, he would still have had it. He had it fir years before fighting De La Hoya, despite his recent resume being very weak before that fight.

Aside from that, Clottey is a very good fighter. He could even beat Mosley at this stage and I wouldn't bet against it. The fact Mayweather/Mosley has much more hype doesn't make it a much better fight.

Even if Clottey was a journeyman and the number 1 spot changed easily, Pacquiao is so far ahead of the rest of the world, nothing would change.

 

I agree, unless Pac loses I can't see it changing. You basically have to lose a fight to drop from #1 once you have it.

 

If mayweather beats mosley you have to give it to him in my opinion.

Why well because he beat the previous p4p number 2 in Marquez and he just beat the current p4p number 3 in Mosley. He also lost the p4p title by retiring.

 

Why did Enzo ignore this?

 

That's the whole point. Hopkins lost a controversial fight that in most people's eyes he won. Floyd's last win was against the weakest titlist in Gatti. If Hopkins should lose his #1 spot, Floyd didn't deserve it. This is especially more pronounced given the schedule of opposition he would take from thereon. Now, do you really have a better argument than what you have so far posted aside of course from your brilliant "moronisms", which are admittedly on point here, except that it only applies to you.

 

That's not true. Roy Jones Jr dropped his p4p number 1 spot, and he didnt lose a fight.

 

What controversial fight did hopkins lose?

 

Not bad, but you forget a very important thing HOW IMPRESSIVE WAS THE WINNER?
DLH win - Pac dominated every round, and made him quit on his stool
Mayweather got a UD that some fans even argue with

Hatton - Pac KO in two!
Mayweather KO in 9

BTW: I know those two might have not been the same exact people, but the record books say the same exact name under the W column, and you are comparing them.

Diaz/ Baldomir - Pac ripped diaz apart (yeah I know it's crazy, but you compared these fights)
Baldomir - Mayweather coasted to a boring decision

Cotto - Pac was the smaller man, really doesn't have any business being in here with these big guys (should be 135 or 140)...Yet he TKOed Cotto.
Marquez - Came up two weight classes (like you mentioned), he's old, slow at the weight, and didn't stand no chance. Floyd did not even knock him out, but he did dominate every round

SO, Pac's wins were more sensational, and this is why people love Pac. He goes life or death against people whom are bigger than him. Mayweather doesn't even go life and death with people much smaller, slower, and nowhere near him. I know it's style, but I'm just giving my reasoning here. People pay to see Mayweather in hopes he'll lose (due to his mouth)...People pay to watch Pacquaio in hopes he'll win (due to his warrior mentality inside the ring, and lovable personality outside it).

Due to his style, and his resume there's no way Mayweather could pass up Pac right now. Even if Pac loses to Clottey, and Mayweather wins against Mosley many people still wouldn't hand it over to Mayweather. He's fighting a guy who's past his prime (a great fighter though), meanwhile Pac is fighting a guy who's much bigger, and stronger than him who is an elite WW. Honestly even if Floyd would beat Pac I'd still be on the fence to put him as P4P #1, again, because of resume, and impressiveness. If Floyd destroyed Pac then I'd definitely give it to them. I'd just guess a boring, potshoting, controversial, run around the ring performance...

 

Why indeed.

 

Of course Pac's wins over DLH and Hatton were much better, he fought worse versions of them.


Far far worse in DLH.

 

Because it's nonsense?

Hatton was coming off his second best career performance and at his best weight when Pacquiao demolished him. He is the best 140lber since Tszyu and that's the only time he lost at the weight. It is a much better win than Mayweather's over Hatton. Historically more significant too. Hatton had too much pride and shouldn't have moved up against either Collazo or Mayweather. He should have realized he didn't belong at 147lbs after the Collazo fight, as the rest of us did.

Whilst Mayweather beat a better version of De La Hoya, he was expected to. I remember coming on ESB and seeing people asking others to pray for Pacquiao's safety. Not to win, but so he wouldn't get permanently damaged. He had everything going against him and pulled it off. The ease of the win has made it underrated. Think about it this way: People gace Marquez more if a chance of beating Mayweather.

Cotto is better than anything Mayweather has ever done. Bringing Marquez up to welterwight was a joke.

If you combine all those wins, Pacquiao's are much better than Mayweather's. There isn't much comparison.

 

and floyd fought much worse version of jmm and didn't KO him. pac KOed/TKOed the so called worse version of oscar and hatton. and pac fought hatton at his best weight.