Is Pacquiao The Only Fighter Who Could Have Beat ODLH That Convincingly On Dec 6th?

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  1. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    maybe overall but in this thread from what ive read so far its looked pretty level headed
     
  2. Nestea

    Nestea Thirst Remover Full Member

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    Actually it's nice you did brought up this thread. So people could even talk about it and fix up everything debate arguements etc.

    Nice job btw.
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

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    oscar did stopped throwing but it's not like pac hadn't anything to do with it. pac was elusive that night that hoya's accuracy is so low. pac used side-to-side movements that make oscar's jab miss. furthermore, pac was not contented on just letting oscar miss but took the fight straight to him even at the early stages when hoya still has some punch in him. this combination of not finding his target and getting beaten to the punch spelled doom for oscar and could make a fighter who tried to make a lower weight much more tired.

    now, i did say that someone like cotto or margo would have stopped oscar even earlier that night, but they might not be as dominant as to get all the rounds before the stoppage. oscar could squeeze a round or two from them especially on the early stages of the fight. about second rate welters like cintron and clottey and most top fighters at lower weights, i doubt if they would beat oscar that convincingly.

    i know that we would not get into agreement with this because you people are focusing too much on oscar's state ignoring the fact that pac has something to do why oscar did look so bad in that fight. if pac didn't move that well in that fight, he would be eating a lot of oscar's jab and it would be a hell of a fight for him.
     
  4. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    After the weigh in I think alotta people knew Oscar was in for a long night..He juss didn't look the same at 147..He looked frail..at 154 he is a stronger and faster fighter!
     
  5. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    I'm not takin anything away from Pac..He did a great job..He fought a perfect fight...That fight was at 154 and the fight woulda been much different though!:bbb
     
  6. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Thats exactly what my beef is aswell. Great post :thumbsup
     
  7. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    wait lol you being serious or sarcastic
     
  8. puga_ni_nana

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    to be honest, the way pac fought that night, he would have beaten oscar even at 154. of course oscar would have more strenght in his punches but it would not matter if he is not connecting. he is not that much faster at 154. i think their plan for this fight is to let oscar stay at a lower weight so that he would be faster and can catch pac knowing that he already had the inherent size advantage. too bad that this plan backfired and did not give oscar the speed that they needed. having more punch resistance would not also do oscar good since he would just be sustaining more rounds of beating and would probably last until the final bell. and yes before some would call me a *******, i know that oscar was past his prime when pac fought him.
     
  9. sweetray

    sweetray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pac was just lucky that DLH`s physical condition was weak because of the weight.
     
  10. Nestea

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  11. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I hear you but a decent conditioned Oscar, a guy with a 6 inch reach advantage would have landed more than 83 punches in 8 rounds.

    When you take into account the effects of dehydration:
    Fatique, cramping, dryness and headaches. More serious is diaphoresis and low blood pressure. An Electrolyte imbalance occurs.

    The above was the guy that walked into that boxing ring. As great as Pacs performance was I have to say it wasn't the whole reason the fight went the way it did.
     
  12. Breakdown

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    freddy could have beaten him that night
     
  13. stevexx28

    stevexx28 Active Member Full Member

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    i think vic darchiyan beat dlh that night. JM lopez kos him.
     
  14. imp4pdabest

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    No, that night many ppl could've beaten him. Pac fought a drained DLH, not a DLH in the best shape he could be in. Vic Darchinyan could've hurt Oscar that night. Donaire could've easily boxed his way to another PBF vs Baldo style blowout.
     
  15. DINAMITA

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    Freddie Roach did not scientifically prove that Oscar could only move and throw punches for a maximum of 12 minutes, he said he thought Oscar would only be able to compete with Pacquiao for that time. The intensity of 4 rounds with Pacquiao is far greater than the intensity of 12 rounds with the Malignaggi that took a caning from Ricky Hatton. So although Oscar may have only competed for a few rounds against Pac before becoming a pinata, that does not in any way mean he would have only been able to do likewise against a Paulie or a Kendall Holt.

    Neither of those two would have had the movement to take Oscar's jab away, neither of those two would have been able to impose a pace and intensity on Oscar that he couldn't control, neither could have taken authority from Oscar or stopped him dictating the fight. Oscar would have cruised to a points decision against either, he is past-prime and was weight-drained, but he would still know how to handle a smaller and vastly inferior boxer like either of the two men you are foolishly championing. Oscar will prove (if he fights again) that he can still handle a Malignaggi/Holt standard fighter, no sweat.

    The Forbes fight was only THREE POUNDS higher a limit than the Pac fight, and Oscar handled Forbes arguably even easier than Berto did. It's not rocket science.

    You fanboys are so knee-jerk it's laughable. I bet you were one of those boys who screamed that Hopkins was finished after the second Taylor fight or that Duran should retire after No Mas or Barrera was a spent force after the Junior Jones double. Simmer down dear!