Is Pacquiao's chin cracked?

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  1. rathalos

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  2. rathalos

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    i grade his chin A-
    Today B+
    his chin is not that bad,not a granite though.
     
  3. boxing_master

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    pac has a granite chin like duran pac has taken over 1000 flush shots from bigger guys using no defense I am really surprised based on his style he was not knockdown a lot
     
  4. Barrera

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    after the loss to marquez it looked like he bounced back well against rios but in the bradley rematch he was stunned by a good shot.. now everyone can be stunned by a good shot but against bradley? i dont know the man has very sub par punching power. it def seems suspect. i dont think its 100% but i dont think he is like roy jones level
     
  5. Barrera

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    thats actually true.. the chinese sure can take punishment
     
  6. boxing_master

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    think it was more a balance issue pacs feet were already on the air or he was getting ready to spin round and jump
     
  7. Clydebank Blitz

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    When was Pacquiao's chin ever "granite". He could take a solid shot but it's not like it's one of the greatest ever. I know the weight difference was fairly huge but Pacquiao seemed to be shaken up almost every time Marg landed on him. It's part of what makes him so exciting to watch.

    In the JMM fight, respect needs to be given for Pac's recovery from that first KD. It was HUGE. A vicious near perfect punch that was only eclipsed by the perfect one that followed. Both took some huge punishment in such a short fight. Pac's chin was merely human in that fight, far from weak.

    He has seemed to be back to normal since then though. Bradley did land hard, but did you guys honestly watch the fight? Bradley was throwing absolute haymakers from his hips in that one. Dude nearly abandoned all boxing skills and was aiming to rip Pac's head off. Some HUGE leather being thrown from Tim, which to be fair is probably why it was so easy to call in Pacman's favour the second time.

    A KO like Pac suffered from JMM though, it's hard to know. Some guys bounce back fine from it but there's always a chance that one big KO sets off the trigger. None the less, the heavier the puncher, the more they come forward for the KO and the better I fancy Pacman's chances at looking as good as ever.
     
  8. boxing_master

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    you also forgot the crazy shot jmm landed right after pac knocked him down in the 5th round the one were roy said ooooooooh it was the same shot as the 6th round but difference was pac never lunged
     
  9. Clydebank Blitz

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    Honestly that fight was absolutely amazing. I know you're a huge Pacman fan too, and even though how it turned out, the **** was just awesome. It's a shame that people use it as an insult towards Pac because his adjustments made it by a landslide the best performance on his part against JMM in their 4 clashes. Pac was using his footwork much better and turned it into a war. JMM wasn't backing up like previous fights and countering. He was right there with Pac, toe to toe, and it was exactly what Pac would have wanted from the fight. Unfortunately for Pac, JMM was fighting like one of the best fighters on the planet too and has the power of a Goliath in that one. I wish they hadn't fought the previous 3 times so we could have seen a rematch.
     
  10. boxing_master

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    when you fight a fighter that much and as smart as jmm is he gets better each time he fought pac

    just look at maidana he had 2 cracks at mayweather and in the first fight never landed anything big but in the second fight he timed him very well and landed a big shot what if he had anther 2 cracks? he could get a even better shot
     
  11. Clydebank Blitz

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    I feel like EVERYTHING you said is wrong?

    JMM looked worst against Pac as time went on. The first two fights, in most people's eyes, were quite clearly for JMM despite the judges opinion. The third fight, JMM clearly won his rounds while Pacquiao might have edged several. It was an uneventful fight and JMM did very well in his gameplan but didn't really dominate in any way. In the fourth fight, JMM abandoned his winning strategy and went toe to toe, which essentially is Pacquiao's wheel house. The fourth fight was undoubtedly Pacquiao's best boxing performance against JMM.

    Also, Maidana nearly defeated Mayweather in the first fight, putting him on the ropes at all times and roughing him up. In the second fight he struggled to do so as Mayweather caught him on the way in. May easily took the second while the first was very close (I biasedly had gave it to Maidana).
     
  12. PaddyGarcia

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    I knew if I looked through the thread enough I would eventually find a sensible comment.
     
  13. boxing_master

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    yes I agree thinking about it now
     
  14. Clydebank Blitz

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    I didn't mean to be as much of a d.ick about it with the capital EVERYTHING. I type like that sometimes and sound like a sanctimonious ****hole haha.

    But yeah I reckon Pacquiao was the one figuring out JMM as opposed to the other way around. I can't remember exactly, but I BELIEVE it was Pacquiao's ability to get his foot on the outside of JMM's which made a massive difference in the fourth fight. It could have been something else but that sounds familiar. JMM also had his part in getting dragged into a war, one which he won devastatingly but still unintelligently. I guess JMM might have just got ****ed off with the judges and you couldn't blame him for it.

    I think Maidana exposed something in Mayweather that takes his all time abilities away slightly. The old days were filled with stupid fighters who wanted to put you on the ropes and beat you up without any real intelligence in the strategy. The difference is, some of them were ridiculously heavy handed. I don't know my entire boxing history to pick anyone out but I'm sure a few of you guys could. If Maidana had the power to dig those body shots in and hit Mayweather even on the arms a lot harder, the fight would have say Mayweather struggle to turn it around as the rounds went on I think.
     
  15. boxing_master

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    pac hurt jmm like no one EVER came close too apart from that lucky shot which was well timed.jmm never really hurt pacquaio

    if jmm was backing pac up and forcing the stoppage and hurting him bad kind of like how pac put him on the back foot badly in round 5 almost looked like jmm lost a leg if that happened to pac then I would of been very very worried so far in pacs career I have never seen him be put on the back foot for long