Is Pac's punching power increasing or does Hatton have a glass jaw?

That last punch by Manny would have knocked out most people. He had Ricky's forward momentum from the lunge and he landed it with full force!

I dont think Ricky has a glass jaw, hell Manny even made Oscar reach for the ropes. I defy anyone to take the punch Ricky did and get up from it! It looked like the force of it almost broke Ricky's neck.

 

Ricky has an average chin. You ALWAYS get hurt by the punches you cant see. I said ages ago Hatton would be hit hard and often and wouldnt see any of those punches coming. I watched him get buzzed many a time in his WBU days against non punchers and the result was exacly the same as he stepped up in class.

 

He didnt. Against Kostya he was never hit cleanly. He smothered him so much that Kostya couldnt get off. Since that bout we've heard "Ricky has a great chin". It was a fallacy. What his earlier bouts with Phillips Tackie and Magee. All 3 shook him to the soles of his boots when he was hit cleanly when rushing in.

 

Hatton has a good chin

Problem is that Pac is so fast and fluid that you just dont see the punches coming. And I mean that literally, you DONT see them coming. Pac puts combos together and with his speed and precision is just like get caught with your eyes cloesed.

Old saying in boxing "I never saw it coming". When a fighter gets caught flush and he was never expecting to get hit, unless his chin is absolute iron he is going to go down.

 

A bit of both. Pac looks like he's really settling into the weight and once again has established himself as a devastating puncher. Hatton imo always had a suspect chin. Mayweather is not considered as a big puncher at 47 but was able to give Hatton double vision; not to mention Lazcano who had Ricky staggered twice.

 

This fight does remind me of that one. Not in everything of course. But the way Hearns shocked Duran in the first round, but he didn't get the KO yet. Duran tries to fight Hearns toe to toe and gets KO'd badly in the second.

 

Yeah Ricky had a weak jaw but before this fcukin fight all of you here are saying that "140 is Ricky's territory", "One punch in the body will make Manny pray for his life" this sh!t and that!! man...And look wtf happened!And still Manny didn't get the credit for some of the dickheads here....After Manny's last two fights, he proved that he can do what Floyd Sh!t can do...and MUCH BETTER!!!!

 

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: When you just continue to get drilled with clean shot after clean shot, and they're fully loaded-up shots as Pac and Shane threw, you are not going to be able to take it very long.

Pac is so fast and accurate right now, and he's throwing very, very hard. This was just a continuation of the ODLH fight, only Hatton is less skilled than Oscar, used zero defense and is also smaller.

He got nailed from the get go and once you saw he wasn't going to play any defense, it was only a matter of time.

 

I think Pac is settling at this weight now and is carrying more power but Rickys come forward style and lack of defense left him more open to flush shots than Oscar or even Diaz.

 

Those fights had little resemblance to this one. Duran looked like crap before the bell rung, even had the announcer saying that Duran usually bounced on his feet when he entered the ring something he wasn't doing then.

What I'm trying to say is Leonard has faster hands than Hearns and couldn't befuddle Duran without implementing foot speed. Pacquiao has carried up his speed, increased his power, and even more skills that combined to destroying a fairly good chinned Hatton.

 

Hatton actually had a very good chin ......he took some great shots from Kostya Tszyu......but it seems like ever since the Collazo fight, Hatton's legs do a number every time he gets hit square on the jaw.

I still did'nt believe Pac could knock Hatton out in the way he did......Pac threw an enormous amount of shots at both Diaz and DLH and it was only through accumulation that both were stopped......


......so after Hatton got dropped and hurt in the very first round by a right hook by Pac.....anyone with any boxing sense would know at that point that it would be just a matter of time before the lights went out once Pac landed the left.

I wanted to see Pac tested at these higher weights he's fighting in......can he take some punishment coming from these bigger guys......it has yet to be known......

Got to hand it to team Pacquiao and trainer Freddie Roach especially........Freddie really knows how to study the weaknesses of fighters, and Pac just goes out and executes Roach's game plan.


A pity imo that Hatton did'nt have the whiskers to make it a better fight, but hey, its Pac and team that exploited it, all power to them.

At the thread topic, imo Pac's power is not increasing.....at these higher weights he's throws sharp snapping type of shots with good but not great power.
Against the average good 140 pounder, he's going to have to throw more shots to stop a fighter than he did in the lower weight classes.

 

hatton took bigger punches from kosta tsyu. anybody who stands THAT close to pacquiao with his hands down is gettin knocked out, even PBF (who,may i add, wont be that stupid). Everybody says it was a great performance from pac but i disagree, it was more of an amature, typical hatton performance from ricky. i think what mayweather snr says about pacman is true, his technique and timing arent all that good... they are when you stand and trade with him, but he CANNOT FIGHT AT RANGE. he throws wild punches when you arent infront of him and often ends up offbalance, standing in your range instead! this is how you beat him, you limit his ability so that he has to throw from distance and make him pay when he misses. look at his hooks today... 90% of all pacmans righthooks came from very wide with a straight arm, more like a swing rather than a hook. i honestly cant see him beating mayweather, mayweather is a man who will know pacmans strengths and weaknesses and hes smart enuf to stick to the plan, unlike hatton. dont get me wrong, i do like manny, hes a warrior with a massive heart, but he is not a technical boxer!!! I would like to hear any views on this by the way, wether you agree or disagree with me

 

yeah man. roach is a legend. unlike everyone else, including me, he KNEW hatton didnt have the mental ability to adapt to change in his style. so vintage ricky hatton came charging in, and when hatton and pacman stand toe to toe, throwing constantly, speed MUST be king! im just gutted that hatton wasnt smart enough to stay away from that kind of fight. he could have beat him ya know, had he executed the right plan!

 

listen, this is a boxing discussion board. if you want to give your opinion, great, but you have to accept other ppls opinions too ok? if you cant accept other ppls opinions or theorys, go to youtube with all the dickheads!! otherwise, be nice ;o)

 

You're exxagerating it somewhat......but the basis or your post is true.......Pac is just not going to match technical abilities against a true technician like Marquez or Mayweather, he'll get beat by both of them.

.....and you're also correct.....if the target is there to hit, Pac is the best in the world at exploiting it and doing so in awesome fashion.

Three things are needed to beating Pac......an exellent chin, stamina, and top rated technical abilities.
Not many fighters have all three of those at world level, so there is'nt many fighters out there who can beat Pac at 140 lbs and below.