Is Patterson's chin underrated?

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Most of his knock downs were from being off balance. And he got up all but twice. Only 1 fighter was able to keep him on the canvas. That fighter is Sonny Liston. Sonny ****ing Liston. Liston is not just another puncher. This guy is a killing machine. Nobody (with the exception of Foreman), not Tyson, not Lewis not even Tua come anywhere close to this guy's punching power. If you wanted to keep Patterson on the canvas in that era you needed to be Liston or have a baseball bat.
    Gilbert Rogin of Sports Illustrated wrote: "Liston is not a notably swift and flashy hitter, but that final left hook crashed into Patterson's cheek like a diesel rig going downhill, no brakes....There are no fighters extant, and precious few mammals of any variety, that could have beaten the count. The miracle is that Patterson was able to get to his knees."
     
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  2. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well as Floyd once said in response to his being knocked down more then any other heavyweight champion he also got up more then any of them also.
     
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  3. swagdelfadeel

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    good point.:good
     
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  4. heavy_handss

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    You have a a serious problem with your love for sonny liston
     
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  5. Mendoza

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    My quick answer is no. How many other fighters floored him besides Liston?
     
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  6. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    This has NOTHING to do with Liston. You have a serious problem with your hatred for Liston.
     
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  7. mr. magoo

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    His chin wasn't "great" per say. But he managed to survive for nearly 20 years in a competitive heavyweight division against some elite men and was even champ for a fashion. He had to have some punch resistance.
     
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  8. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. He was put down on the floor 19 times and was very easy to hurt.
     
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  9. jowcol

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    Many of his knockdowns WERE from being off balance. And Sonny didn't 'keep him on the canvas' after hitting him with, in Sonny's words: "the hardest I've ever hit anyone, I felt the impact deep into my back when I hit him."
    Ingo 1, two Liston's and neither of them laid him out in a comatose 8-9-10 yer out! puddle. Unlike Lennox Lewis, Tyson (where's my mouthpiece :D) and others.
    In short, YES his chin was underrated. Chuvalo landed several Sunday shots on him (10th round MSG 2/65), and Floyd simply outworked George in route to a clear decision. In closing, NO HW in history could lay Floyd out on his face. My hero! My $0.02!
     
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  10. Berlenbach

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    I think he's underrated generally. He got knocked down a lot but only Liston put him out for the count. A lot of his knockdowns were to due to his poor balance with those leaping punches he threw. Plus he was almost always the smaller man in the ring. He was coddled as champion but did later prove he could hang tough and beat decent heavyweights. He was also a near permanent fixture in the top ten between winning the title in '56 and his retirement in '72.
     
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  11. heavy_handss

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    Really? DOES not matter what is the topic OF your thread, son or later you always talk about liston like a parrot, you did this stupid thread in order TO give more credit TO the power OF liston, read your own thread poor old man
     
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  12. swagdelfadeel

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    You have this weird obsession with Liston. GET OVER IT.
     
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  13. Mendoza

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    Jowcol,

    You might know this? How many other fighter put Patterson down besides Liston?
     
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  14. Berlenbach

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    Johansson, Harris, Ellis, Ali, Quarry, Bonavena, Rademacher.
     
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  15. bonbon

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    In answer to the question. No, his chin was shocking.
     
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