Is PBF a Top 5 ATG at LW?

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  1. Pimp C

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    I agree.
     
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  2. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    why would you even use 135? Its clear that he didnt do enough no respectable boxing fan would even try make reason with that.....better off using 130.....where he clearly is an ATG .....H2H PBF gives anyone trouble from 147 down.
     
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  3. Ramshall1

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    this was a pretty specific observation on my part about his apparent contradiction. . . better that he answered especially since I didnt bother reasing your entire response anyway.
     
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  4. Ramshall1

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    thats the part I have a problem with. . . the whole "might have been". Coulda woulda shoulda. . . Im not even arguing that he "wouldnt" have been. . . but he didnt.

    I dont think he has enough wins to be ranked that high, biggest was probably Genaro. . . I agree with Shane that Chico was too weight drained to give FMJ too much credit for that win.
     
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  5. Ramshall1

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    who the hell is talking to your little prissy ass? Why dont you go run some hurdles, Fraud Groupie.
     
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  6. Ramshall1

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    go watch track and field.
     
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  7. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't post here looking for responses from you, so it doesn't matter whether you read it or not. You posted on a public forum, you got a public answer. Like I said, you often post in response to post directed specifically at others. I don't care if you like it or not.
     
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  8. kg0208

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    :good

    And there was no poll. Polls make things easier on all of us.
     
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  9. Ramshall1

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    then carry on.
     
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  10. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I do have a question specifically for you. Where do you place Mayweather at 130lbs All time?

    Also, do you feel that we have seen ANY fighters in this generation who are the greatest ever at their peak weight class? Trindad at 154, Jones at 168, PBF at 130, KT at 140, etc..
     
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  11. El Bombasto

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    nope
     
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  12. Toopretty

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    I will say this and say it again. You cannot rate floyd at one weight class except 130. He is a P4p Fighter since then moving up 4 weights in about 5 years. That in its self is an accomplishment and the fact that he went on to be champs at those weights though 140-147 were weak champs. But still an amazing task. Floyd will have a good spot in history when it is all said and done. Even if he loses one fight or so. He did more then most ATG did in a career. Dominating one weight division is ****ing easy compared to moving up weights and still being dominate. Floyd at 140 looked his best. Fast with some more power then he had at 135. Floyd could of stayed at 140 and ruled and dethroned Hatton then. Or he for sure beats a drained Cotto at 140.
     
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  13. Ramshall1

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    I havent considered it enough to say for certain but probably top 7. . . Im sure there are good fighters form the 20's and b4 that I dont know enough about though.

    Its hard to do that since most fighters dont stay at a weght class too long. . . Hops probably comes the closest of this generation IMO cuase of his long resume at 160. Of course I put Hagler and Monzon ahead of him though.
     
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  14. kg0208

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    Yes, but I have never made an assertion that he was the best at 135. Someone else has, and then muddled the thread with his insults and contradictions. This was simply to get a clearer picture.

    And moving up can be great, but I would prefer he did it in the manner Jones did it. Jones moved up 4 weight classes (technically more, but whatever) and won titles in each. Outside of HW though, where Jones was clearly too small, he had 12 fights at SMW and that was his least amount of fights.

    I do not doubt his greatness as a P4P fighter, but I do doubt any criteria that would rate PBF in the top 5 of any division besides 130. I think he looked far better at 130 than 140, but thats my opinion.
     
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