is Pernel Whitaker Overrated?

Again, I don't know what you're talking about. This isn't relevant.

 

And Floyd has faced such a diverse range of stylists hasn't he?

 

:rofl Amazing!

And again, who is saying Pea is the greatest H2H of all time? That goes to Saensak Muangsurin of course. In 15 round wars he never sat down! Southpaw Thai ten stone Foreman!

 

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Okay, yes, the argument is pretty stupid, but can I just say, besides agreeing with you, that I love this damn movie?

 

It drags in places but when it's funny it killed me off.

"When we get back I'm gonna' teach ya' how to juggle"

 

don't argue with trolls.. they just take you down to their level and beat you with experience. Or is it stupidity.. I give up.

 

If you had a look at their fight, you'd see that Roger Mayweather was actually bigger than Whitaker. There's a reason he went up to 140 and fought well but yeah...

Freddie Pendleton, although no great, was another stylistical hurdle in that he was a quick, rangy banger. Whitaker boxed him to pieces anyway...

And the reason Pryor isn't rated as well as Whitaker is because he didn't have his longevity and Whitaker has more depth to his resume.

Right only 2 fighters and no contenders. Good point.

Possibly, but he also would have also whipped a lot more greats though, because as his career actually showed, he wasn't out of his depth when he fought great fighters, and often made a mockery of them.

If Napoles was more tested, it was marginally so imo.

Ortiz yes, he did face a lot of greats, but many you would **** upon for not being natural lightweights (laguna, who beat him, sugar ramos, who was doing well in his first fight before the cut ended it, flash elorde) and of the lightweights he lost to Loi and was fortunate to get the cut stoppage against what would have been a stylistic hurdle in Kenny Lane.

Ortiz is a great though and for me, if you did want to put him above Whitaker I think it's defenceable. I wouldn't do it myself, but you could make a case.

 

Well, we saw what Nelson looked like at 135. To me he didn't look diminished in strength, speed or power. He wouldn't have the same strength advantage as he had at the lower weights, and reach would be a problem against the much rangier guys, but against guys that wouldn't try to muscle him or outreach him, i.e. smaller boxer types, there's no reason to think he couldn't do well against them. I don't envisage many having the skill to outbox him the way Whitaker did.

Same deal with Chavez re welterweight.