is Pernel Whitaker Overrated?

I would easily say manny's win over barrera has more value than whitakers win over nelson, especially when you consider the weight class each fight was at. Again nelson is being put on a higher pedastol than he should be due to him being a pernell whitaker opponents. The same re-occuring theme on esb, if you fight pernell, you get overrated to the moon, fight mayweather and your a bum.

Sure Whitaker hung in there with Tito, but what did he really show from a skills perspective? That from hurtado, pestriaev and trinidad fights his head movement and speed were basically gone by age 33. I laugh everytime i watch the hurtado fight, complete reversal of roles. Hurtado had the speed and boxing ability of camacho, whitaker was slower than foreman and had to try and stalk him. Pernell in the hurtado fight was made to look like a bum, really sad to see him decline that fast.

You know fighters like napoles and pacquiao have better resumes than whitaker, so the only argument is to cherry pick whitaker having fewer blemishes, damn that seems like the floyd mayweather argument.

Either way, im arguing pernell with his biggest die hard lunatic fan, we'll see whos considered greater between pea and pac 10 years from now. I think that will be fairly obvious. If i asked 10 different boxers which one is greater, its almost a guarantee 7 of them will say pac, esb is just butthurt because manny these last 5 years has been surpassing many of thier heroes.

 

Whats correct in stating whitaker is rightly rated higher than napoles? He deserves to be seen as greater because he has more of a cherry picking resume, while napoles fought in an era where you fight 8-10x a year and every great back then had losses. I guess whitaker is above homicide hank, i mean armstrong lost many times at every stage of his career.

Napoles in an hbo contract era would have easily beaten everyone whitaker faced from 85-96, EVERYBODY. Whitaker's resume is the most overrated resume of all times.

I would always favour pryor to beat whitaker at 140 and soundily. Pryor would have no respect for whitakers power and would swarm him all night long. You disagree, good for you, theres no way of proving it. I would also pick napoles to be a 60/40 favourite at either 135 or 140. Napoles was denied lightweight title shots for a reason, duva wouldnt want to have anything to do with napoles.

 

If Whitaker won his lightweight belt off Julio Cesar Chavez and then his following 7 fights were against:
Mosley at lightweight
Carlos Ortiz at lightweight
Floyd Mayweather at lightweight
De Jesus at lightweight
Pryor at 140
Meldrick at 140
Antonio Cervantes at 140

You see him going 7-0 against that group and not once losing an 8-4 decision? I never knew beating nelson, chavez and mcgoose makes someone invincible. I didnt even throw in other goat '135/140 size' fighters like duran, napoles, ike williams, joe gans, benny leonard, barney ross, homicide hank, beau jack, bob montgomery. Your argument that no one soundily beats him is an epic troll job.

 

Even though de jesus has a win over duran, let me guess you have an excuse for that win too. Duran was unprepared, it was at 140? Go ahead make an excuse, thats all boxing fans do when a great losses, make excuses.

 

Yeah too bad cervantes is better than almost everyone whitaker has beaten.

 

Yeah and thats why I take your opinion with a grain of salt. Sure pernell looked invincible against the ramirez, haugens, pinedas, diazs, paezs, lomelis, braziers, nazarios, cardonas, jacobs. He is now all of a sudden going 8-0 against all time greats. Mayweather gets ripped apart for being a cherry picker, whitaker gets loved for it.

Pryor always beats whitaker, i have little to no doubt about it. So does napoles.

Flea says meldrick looked out of place, well meldrick tko'd mcgirt and was beating chavez before a controversial stoppage, and those are the two best guys whitaker beat.

The best fighters on pernells resume, one was stopped by meldrick taylor, the other was going to lose to taylor if it wasnt for richard steele stepping in. But pernell easily goes 8-0 against hall of famers.