Is Pernell Whitaker the most complete Southpaw ever?

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  1. WHU

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  2. Thread Stealer

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    Probably Marvin Hagler.

    Not only could he box from the outside and apply pressure in a brawling style, but had the power that Whitaker more or less lacked.
     
  3. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Whitaker was one hell of a boxer and probably the owner of "Best ever highlight reel" on YouTube.

    Looked unbeatable at 135 until he got screwed against Ramirez.

    Love watching his movement in fights.
     
  4. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can certainly make a case for it.

    Excellent fighter.
     
  5. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Id have to say Marvin Hagler....in his prime in the late 70's and early 80's he did it all. Could box, bang, use his jab and movement to offset aggressive types and his ability to cut of the ring and bodypunching to halt a slickster. Whitaker was perhaps the trickiest defensive fighter of all-time, no disrespect to Pep and others. He could do it alll as well but Hagler had a better chance at getting a when after being beaten most of a fight. Whitaker showed he could as well against Hurtado. The greater fighter is Whitaker, the most complete is Hagler.
     
  6. WHU

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    good points, would you have Whitaker #2 on ya list of most complete southpaws
     
  7. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gotta go with Hagler, Pernell had the best D of the modern era but Hagler was more complete.
     
  8. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    you guys probably havent heard but Gamboa can fight lefty just as well as righty

    so no, sweet pea is not the most complete southpaw ever
     
  9. Borincano

    Borincano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whitaker all the way. Hagler had many losses and learned from each loss, but Whitaker was undefeated in my eyes and that Hurtado fight was unbelievable. The Hurtado fight was his real last fight. Oscar and Tito did not fight the prime Whitaker and Ramirez most definitely should not have been given the win. The Chavez fight was B.S. Don't get me wrong, Hagler was great towards the middle on up of his career. Whitaker was a talent in the beginning and then a superstar throughout the rest of his career. I actually did not like Whitaker's fighting style and learned to really appreciate his great talent. I just wished he and Camacho would have fought at 135 and a Meldrick fight.
     
  10. Thread Stealer

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    I don't know if I'd call 3 (2 of them controversial) losses as being "many".

    I probably lean towards ranking Pernell higher than Marvin all-time, but I think Hagler was more complete.
     
  11. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep, I forgot to mention, Hagler could fight southpaw and orthodox
     
  12. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know some of you guys will get all ***** hurt but fukc it Im gonna say it anyway, Hagler never ran from his opponant.
     
  13. prideofvbeach

    prideofvbeach Top 10 Pound-For-Pound Full Member

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    Hagler was better than Whitaker, but that's only superior southpaw I can think of. Put Sweetpea against today's top southpaws in any division, like Pacquiao, Calzaghe or Wright, he'd pick them apart.
     
  14. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree all the way...and lets not forget if we are talkinf losses....Hagler ahd 3 Sweet Pea had 4.
     
  15. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    For me being a Hagler fan, I would call it a tossup, all depending on what you prefer in a fighter.