Is Povetkin being rushed too fast?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Vincent Gottschalk, Jul 27, 2007.


  1. Zhaakal

    Zhaakal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I am scared that Wlad will kill his momentum.. They should wait a little
     
  2. Ding

    Ding Champ Full Member

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    :good
     
  3. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    I didn't insult anybody. I will insult you though. You know almost nothing about boxing and you came to this forum for the sole purpose of nuthugging Klitschko. You're a true brainwashed Wlad superfan who has even made statements as dumb as "Wlad would KO prime Larry Holmes". You're the one who needs to "learn some humility" before insulting a true ATG HW like Holmes.
     
  4. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    C: No, but I don't see how fighting another 5 guys would get him any more prepared. Skill-wise, he's probably OK. I don't see anyone else in the division really testing Povetkin on that level anyway, and if it turns out that he doesn't have a great chin, at least he has the excuse theat it was cracked by the best in class.
     
  5. Ding

    Ding Champ Full Member

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    :good Good post.

    Boxing would be a better place if we had more real fighters like Povetkin.
     
  6. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    Now you are a complete idiot. Donald came in the same weight as he did for the Valuev match. Donald was stunned a few times, but wasn't stopped because of his great chin and holding skills. Prime Vitali knocked out Donald very late in the fight. Shutting out Donald on all 3 scorecards in your first real step up in your career is as impressive as being a power puncher in your prime stopping Donald after 40 fights. But all this is meaningless.

    What the hell does Vitali have to do with ANY of this? You just made two points comparing Vitali to Povetkin based on one fight in order to help make one point about Wlad. What kind of ******ed logic is that?

    Reality: You argue and think the way a new boxing fan or a true nuthugger does. If A beats B and C beats B a little better, then that automatically means C is better than A. One of the funniest thing about delusional Klitschko fans is that they use Vitali's accomplishments to make Wlad look better. Your first two points had absolutely nothing to do with your 3rd. NOTHING.

    Reality: I argue with sense and back up my thoughts with facts. The fact is that Povetkin has the perfect style and the abilities to destroy Wlad. The fact is that most people agree with that, but they think at this point Povetkin needs more experience to be ready for Wlad. That's where I disagree with them. I think that after beating Byrd and Brock/Chambers, Povetkin will beat Klitschko, even at this green stage of his career.

    Why am I even wasting time arguing with you? Most people would agree with me that you're an idiot. You said Wlad would KO a prime Larry Holmes.
     
  7. Vincent Gottschalk

    Vincent Gottschalk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Povetkin should fight Dimitrenko to get used to fighting a guy Wlad size and also should fight Shannon Briggs to get used to facing a guy with Wlad's power before taking on Wlad:nono
     
  8. huki

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    Exactly. Fans of boxers want them to slowly and safely make their way to the top over years of building up their undefeated records, then finally try to go for the title. It is much more exciting to see a fighter with the confidence of Povetkin say "screw the safe way, I know I am the best right now, and I will show everyone by going after the #1 guy as soon as possible". Then when he wins, it makes his win much more impressive and way more exciting. His stock goes from 5 to 10 right away, instead of taking years to make his stock rise from 5 to 6, from 6 to 7..

    Risky matches with huge rewards is what boxing is all about and people should be praising Povetkin and giving him a chance instead of immediately saying he can't do it just because he's not doing it the safe way like the others are.
     
  9. LennoxGOAT

    LennoxGOAT Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed. People are really underestimating Wlad here....
     
  10. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I seen a lot of fighters get ruined by being rushed, If Alex wins, he will then be at the top level and have to fight the best, he has a chance but If he gets brutally KO'd it may ruin him forever. amatuer experience is great and the gold medal is a great sign of pedigree and talent but who was ready to fight for a title with 13 pro fights of the Gold medal guys, Vlad,Ali,Frazier,Foreman,Patterson,Leonard,L.Spinks,M.Spinks,Lennox,Mercer...???? which one of these guys, what makes Alexander so special that he is different...Spinks beat Ali in his 7th fight and Rademacker fought Patterson in his first but they were kind of ruined by not taking the proper steps in the pro ranks. If Alex wants a title,why fight Vlad ? the fight will make him rich but is it the best thing for his career and developement
     
  11. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    Povetkin's going after the wrong Klitschko if he wants one this soon.
     
  12. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Povetkin is good, but not that good. It's okay to skip many of the tomato cans, but he shouldn't make giant leaps either.

    If he meets Wlad within the next 18 months, he will get flattened by Klitschko, and to what end? Furthermore Wlad should be the last WC on his list. It's folly to start with the best. Especially when you have only had a bit over a dozen fights.
     
  13. dwilson

    dwilson Guest

    Two more fights then Vlad? **** the poor kid is going to get destroyed. Can not knock his guts or potential but the idea is mad. Still if he comes through he will have earned the chance and have a chance but at the moment i am still gob smacked at the thought.
     
  14. joe33

    joe33 Guest

    He is also 27 now,he aint got forever,you never know what can happen in life.
     
  15. Alcaldemb

    Alcaldemb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People it depends on how Povetkin does in this tournament. If he is able to dominate Byrd and the Brock/Chambers winner then I would say he has earned the right to fight Wladimir and, while he could probably use a fight against someone like Virchis, would have experience at a relatively high level that might just prepare him for the fight.

    Stylistically Povetkin is the kind of fighter that should give Wlad trouble. He is a fast, hard hitting and skilled pressure fighter with an expansive arsenal and is deadly accurate.