Is Povetkin being rushed too fast?

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  1. EpsilonAxis

    EpsilonAxis HNIC Full Member

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    I don't think Povetkin's being rushed so fast, considering his amazing amateur background.

    But he should NOT be fighting Wlad for the title within 2 fights. That is insane. Why even risk ruining such a precious fighter?
     
  2. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's pretty much how I feel.
     
  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Povetkin is being moved at a rapid pace. He isn’t ready for Wlad yet, but should be ready for a world title vs another champion as early as 2008!
     
  4. Irish Steel

    Irish Steel Active Member Full Member

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    Povetkin is slightly overated IMO. He hasnt really fought anyone. Besides an aging Larry Donald. Yes, he had a fantastic Amatuer career, buti dont even think with 13 pro fights he has fully adjusted his style etc etc. Wlad takes him out in the 7th.
     
  5. huki

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    Wow, you're 56 and your logic is that of a 5 year old. I barely insulted you and you spent half your post trying to put me down.

    Anyways, once again, the Vitali vs Donald and Povetkin vs Donald comparison is completely irrelevant. You're making it seem like Povetkin struggled with him. Povetkin did "bust up" Donald. Just because he didn't knock him out doesn't mean that he didn't beat his ass and dominate him. Donald has a great chin and the only time he was stopped was when he was up against a huge puncher in their prime. Povetkin shutting out and dominating Donald, but not knocking him out is not any kind of indication that he can't compete with Klitschko or anybody at the elite level. Especially since Wlad isn't in Donald's league when it comes to chins. In fact, none of the champions are. By the way, did you actually watch the Vitali-Donald match? Can you tell me what was going on in the first 10 rounds?

    Yes, of course Wlad would be favored against Povetkin and anybody else. No one on Povetkin's resume would give Wlad trouble. Thanks for that great point also.

    This is my point, that you're not understanding. I understand that most people think Povetkin is rushing too fast, so he will not be able to beat Klitschko at this point. It's a reasonable argument for one to have and although I disagree with it, I don't think it's a dumb thing to say. Here's all I'm trying to say. Even at this green stage in his career, he has everything one needs to beat Wlad. Stylewise he's a big threat to Wlad and saying that you can't see ANY possible way that Povetkin could beat him is completely ridiculous. You REALLY think that there is no possible way that Povetkin can check that chin? Since his loss to Brewster, Wlad has beaten only one opponent who was a serious threat to him, Sam Peter. Sam Peter was as green as Povetkin will be after these next two fights, even more green actually. Peter gave a lot of trouble to Wlad and almost stopped him, even though he has a miniscule amount of boxing skill and his timing, speed, countering, defense, precision, and variety of punches doesn't even compare to that of Povetkin. There's no question that Povetkin could beat Wlad. The question is, can he do it without much pro experience? And I think that he definitely could. Your argument that Povetkin has zero chance against Wlad and you can't see any possible way Wlad can lose isn't reasonable, especially because of Wlad's glass chin.

    You lived during Holmes' prime and his entire career and you think he isn't great?

    "Vlad by KO. Foreman KO's Holmes. Prime Ali Ko's Holmes. Frazier KO's Holmes. Vitali KO's Holmes. Liston KO's Holmes. Tyson KO's Holmes. Dempsey KO's Holmes. Sanders KO's Holmes"?

    :lol: You want people to take your arguments seriously and think that you know something about boxing and then you say something as stupid as that? Let me guess, Wlad beats prime Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Tyson, and Dempsey too?
     
  6. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yep.

    add into it that the division is a wasteland at present. :yep and povetkin should be rushed. :hey
     
  7. ruizfan

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  8. DoumB

    DoumB HOYA KO1 PRESSCOT Full Member

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    dude u will now understand that u have no more credibility then him, saying povetkin as everything for him in a fight between him and wlad is proving the fact that u are a fanboy and nothing else, u just proved yourself out, man u dont seem to understand that I get what u mean and tath povetkin is a huge prospect and a force to be reckoned for but im not blinded like u are cause I know for sure that right now he dont stand a chance, later after a few good tune ups, he can have a fight with wlad and maybe beat him but right now wlad is head and shoulder above him and easily
     
  9. tays001

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    AP get ko'd in brutal fashion in less then 8
     
  10. Heavyrighthand

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    He has to win two more fights, first, so he's not being put in there wtih Wlad, just yet.

    And these two upcoming fights against top ten opponents will SEE if he's ready or not. This works out well, I think. :good

    Go, Povetkin.
     
  11. Vanboxingfan

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    I personally think he's at least 4-5 fights away, and while I admire him going after Wlad who is clearly the best in the division I think he should do so slowly and systematically. I fight against Peters would be a good test.
     
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  13. brooklyn1550

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    You really underestimate Larry Holmes....Sanders KO's Holmes? Give me a break
     
  14. DamonD

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    Sanders would swing at thin air for 3 or 4 rounds and get jabbed to pieces by Larry, probably laughing and tossing out insults under his breath as he did so.

    I do think this is way too early for Povetkin, but let's see how he does in his next 2 fights. Shows just how starved the division is of some interesting contenders rather than the usual old cycle, though.
     
  15. joeboxer

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    Povetkin isn't worried about losing and padding his record. He is challenging himself. its very refreshing. how much different would this fight be one or two years from now? not that much different. even if he loses so what...no one can ever say he took the easy road and he still has plenty of time (although he is already 27) to make his mark.