Is Povetkin being rushed too fast?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Vincent Gottschalk, Jul 27, 2007.


  1. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thats why Joe Frazier avoided the tournement back in the 70's and let Ellis win it and when he was ready fought Ellis, smart corner, Povetikens people are inexperienced on the pro level. He needs to make himself known in euorope and U.S. a fight with Holyfield,Byrd,Rahman, would do this in the U.S. but its not a lock that Alex can win them, he has beaten Donald but he needs to fight a name to get exposure, Evander may fit the bill but Evander will go down fighting
     
  2. jaycuban

    jaycuban Cubans Do It Better ! Full Member

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    wait till Solis gets his hands on him.
     
  3. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    I still don't see how fighting those guys gets Povetkin ready for Wlad. He's already dealt with tall fighters before, so that's not so much of an issue. If it turns out that he can't handle a punch, then he never gets his shot against Wlad anyway; he might as well get KOed by the best out there so he can still have a career fighting lesser fighters. Other than that, stylictically, he should be able to dominate any of the big, plodding HWs. He'd need to fight someone with size, power and speed, and to be honest, Wlad's the only one out there at the moment. He could take 20 more fights and still wouldn't be prepared, other than that Wlad will have gotten old by then.
     
  4. Curtis Lowe

    Curtis Lowe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you may be getting ahead of yourself. First he has to beat Byrd, no easy task, as we all know Byrd has a very difficult style for most to deal with. If he beats Byrd, then can beat the winner of Chambers/Brock fight, he may very well be ready. About a year will have past, he will have matured more, gained that much more experience and Wlad will be another year older.

    I don't see the point in letting him have a bunch of lesser type fights and take the chance of picking up bad habits. If he happens to fight Wlad and loses, so be it. It won't be the end of the world.
     
  5. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Gold Olymic medalist, wins over Donald, Brock, Byrd/Chambers ...
    what do you want more before getting title shot? Should he spar
    with some other recognized veteran like Toney, Holyfield or Rahman?
     
  6. Danny Ocean

    Danny Ocean My nAmE IS MoNeY Full Member

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    even if he loses hes young enough to learn from it, it would be funny to see everyone jump off the bandwagon
     
  7. Vincent Gottschalk

    Vincent Gottschalk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it's not are a matter of just losing it a matter of losing by knockout some fighters are just not the same after getting knocked out. Wladimir is one of hardest hitters in heavyweight history Povetkin is a come forword boxer puncher who's gonna walk right into Wlad big guns.:nono
     
  8. chliJs

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    i don't think he's being pushed too fast. he won't have a chance against wlad, but this has nothing to do with him being pushed too fast. i would give him good chances against the other beltholders, so i consider him to be in the top league. but only because he isn't ready for wlad, yet, doesn't mean they shouldn't give him a try. let him lose against the best, take him out of the fight if it's too one sided, i don't care. it's still a matchup i would prefer over pseudo championship fights between ibragimov and chagaev, simply because it's two elite fighters facing each other, one in his prime who doesn't have to prove anything anymore, the other in an early stage of his career who will most likely benefit from this experience.
     
  9. madpup

    madpup Active Member Full Member

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    I think Wlad still had lots to prove, look at the anti-Wlad brigade here. He will only get widespread respect if he unifies.
     
  10. Bummy Davis

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    he should avoid the Vlad fight for as long as he can,wait for the unification and build up a name for himself in the U.S. and Europe where the money is and also get a Bigger name in Germany. Then a title fight with Vlad will Pay $$$$$
     
  11. Brickhaus

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    :yep
     
  12. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why wont he have any chance against Wlad?

    Povetkin was one of the most dominating amateur heavies of all times.His amateur career was even more impressive than Wlad's one.In the paid ranks he has been matched tougher and moved faster than Wlad.
    He may be the underdog against Wlad,but he for sure has a decent chance to beat Wlad IMO.
     
  13. Brickhaus

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    Because he's shorter, slower, has less reach and has less power. Wlad has never been outboxed, and I can't see Povetkin being able to get off the end of his jab to outbox him. Wlad's only shaky attribute is his chin, and Povetkin isn't going to smash that no matter how many more fights he takes. The only chance of Povetkin beating Wlad is if Wlad suddenly gets old and loses some of the snap on his jab.

    That and because Wlad is American and Povetkin isn't :nut
     
  14. Alcaldemb

    Alcaldemb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad is slower than Povetkin and does not put combinations together as well, nor does he have the same expansive arsenal. Wlad obvioulsy has an edge in power, size and experience. However if Povetkin can dominate this tourney he will have just about as much experience as you need to take on the next level. Povetkin hasn't fought a fighter like Wlad, but Wlad also hasn't fought one like Povetkin.
     
  15. curmudgeon

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    Slower? Have you seen how many punches he can string together in a few seconds? He looks to have every punch in the book, and a few scribbled on the margins of some rare forgotten copy.