Is power and speed really genetics or is technique involved?

Heres one for getting strong Hands and Wrists, Pal of mine [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zls255WTLQ[/ame]

 

People like Mayorga Maidana etc have **** poor technique for the level they fight at, but both have huge hands for there size, but yeah I know its a bit of a generalisation lol, the expression 'heavy hands' didnt come from nowhere right?

 

Best thread on this forums for a long time, its not the first time things have been said here that instantly make sense to me it's like anything else really ive been feeling it for a long time but no one has come and pointed it out for what it is before but now they have, clarity. really great read. good posts also Dealt With.

It's so simple if you allow it to be, cant believe i never pin pointed it before, my body has subconciously known this for a while it seems which is interesting. This one is gonna have me thinking for a while.
it seems so simple really thats how the body is, designed to survive. its about evolution, natural selection, efficiency. the ones that didnt evolve this new gene to learn more efficiently in this manner, never made it so they never passed on their's, over time the genetic becomes as standard. Of course 'Practice' back in the day would have been a lot more pressured than it is in modern society lol, it makes you wonder what is going to happen to talent with todays more modern lifestyles? doesnt seem good.

 

Are you talking about whether psycho-dynamic training would improve a fighter or whether particular psycho-dynamics of fighters would have advantages over others?

I think training psycho-dynamics definitely helps, but that's way beyond the ability of most trainers. You need to study a bit of psychology and persuasion techniques.

Do particular psycho-dynamic traits have advantages over other psycho-dynamic traits? I think it becomes a stone-paper-scissors scenario here. Like different styles produce varied outcomes to fights, so do matchups of fighters with differing psycho-dynamics.

What's your take?

 

Talking environmental , life experiences, the why and because.

 

One thing i read about was that a simple quick movement such as a single puinch in boxing does not require a lot of strength at all, but if it involves inertia such as suddenly changing direction, or throwing fast combinations, strength becomes quite a big factor, mainly in the core and legs

For example moving suddenly from left to right while leaning in one direction and suddenly leaning in the other direction then throwing requires certain strength to do it quickly - because it's a plyometric movement that involves the weight of the body

 

I say technique/background. I can only speak for myself though. I used to throw discus and javelin a lot in high school, and I grew up playing baseball (hitting) and practicing throwing obsessively. The first thing (and only thing for a while) that I found I could do was hit hard on mitts and bags. Really hard for my weight, apparently.

I notice a lot of guys who come from sports like wrestling/football just don't hit hard. They have that thud behind their punches, but something's missing. A wrestler/football player often throws their body at you and seems to get power from simple forward momentum. Sports that involve throwing/hitting all have that violent upperbody motion that strength sports lack.

But here's why I know it's technique: even still I'm not a tremendous puncher in the ring, because I haven't learned to put it all together yet in a live situation. I still hit hard when I want to, but nowhere near the leverage I can get on an inanimate object. I was completely featherfisted until I got some sort of timing down in the ring.

Your strength potential is genetic. Strength can obviously increase power. Your general coordination/athletic potential is genetic as well, and this sort of limits how well you'll be able to develop technique. So yeah it's genetic, but it's probably mostly technique when you get into exceptional power punchers vs. strong guys who just hit hard

 

Use the jack Dempsey jolt and relay from the championship fighting book. Even weak punchers become explosive

 

Technique.