is ppv killing boxing fans????

no i'm defineatly not welsh mate, mancunian .

 

Yes...who could turn into a die-hard fan.

Hard to even be a casual fan when you have to pay an arm and a leg to be one.

 

The perfect post, thats basically exactly my point.......you've just said it two sentences.

A. JC wasn't big before Lacy because how could the casual fan see him fight.

B. PPV takes casual fans away from the sport.

 

its not ppv thats killing boxing.... its the seperation and lack of structure the boxing world is missing..

too many random belts
too many arrogant promoters
too many ego's within the sport

dont allow for people to direct their attention to something that is recognized as the unform #1

no clear #1 boxer in the boxing world
no clear #1 belt in the boxing world
no clear #1 company in the boxing world

boxing is too damn unorganized and thats the problem... if the regular fan knew what boxers too watch and what boxers not to watch... the probably wouldnt have a big problem paying

 

ppv is killing boxing yes.

Yes it is.
One is that many see less boxing. Even fans (except hardcore or even hardcore without money to pay for all ppv's). So, when less people see something, the other media judge it to be less relevant to their viewers, spectators, listeners etc. and therefore they report, discuss and analyze it less. In that way less people get to hear about it and so on.

A vicious circle. Whoever invented ppv shoul be shot. That person is the cause of fan alienation and boxing loosing out as a mainstream major sport, which in the end hurt fans, boxers and their promoters. This is just one of those issues where the marketforces cannot solve it, because they operate in too egotistical a way, to the short-term benefit of the one doing ppv, but to the long term destruction of all.

 

how can you say ppv is killing boxing when millions+ still pay to see
oscar & floyd

if oscar and floyd can do it ... theres no reason why

david haye-pavlik-margarito-paul williams-cotto-tarver-dawson-paqiou

and a couple others should be able to sell upwards of 500k

like i said the lack of organization is what makes this IMPOSSIBLE

everyone is fighting for random belts, theres never one recognized bad ass of the sport, promoters can never agree and promote properly....

it has nothing to do with ppv... boxing just isnt a main stream sport any more... if people want boxing to be back on top there needs to be some unity


edit: all this ppv is killing boxing stuff is really garbage.... it didnt hurt boxing in the 90's
there was always a recognized bad ass... tyson & holyfield

 

PPV is and has always been the slow death of boxing.

 

What 2 million plus

The average premiership football match gets 350 million +

 

Yes

 

if your talking about soccer


soccer is the worlds most popular sport... theres a bigger audience for it

 

If it's killing boxing then boxing has to be growing, last year was the biggest year for PPV boxing ever and this year will probably end up being # 2

 

Overall, yes, it is hurting the sport of gaining new fans. Another thing that is hurting the sport is boxing not being on local tv stations anymore. Stations such as CBS and ABC.

 

Ask yourself this, if ODLH v FM wasn't not PPV and on free to air tv, would it have had more ppl watching????
I would say it woulda more way way way more than 2 million ppl watching it.

I know football is the worlds most popular sport, but boxing is one of a select few worldwide sports i.e. tennis, golf, football, boxing etc. Whereas cricket, nfl, nba are real popular in specific regions.

If golf was ppv or tennis how many peolple what watch the sport......i would say a great deal less that the viewing figures at present. 2mill in a country that have over 300 mill people, thats a drop in the ocean and remember that, that 2mill is a one off an all lol....normally ppv sells what 1/2mill - 1.5mill if that.

 

I can't speak for other countries but in the states I think that PPV is a neccesity unfortunattly. Boxing is not popular enough to justify putting it on network TV. A re-run of friends or seinfeld gets more viewers than JMM vs Casamayor so as a network executive you would be wiser to run the friends re-run as the advertising revenue is just not going to justify giving up the tmie slot nor will it be enough to pay the fighters what they are demanding.

Companies like HBO and showtime can justify paying more for the even because the monthly subscription gives them money and a lot of die hard fans have the channel because of the fights. However in fights where the fighters want to make more than just a hundred grand or so, they sometimes can not justify putting up the money.

PPV is the only option left. Even when a fight does shitty (say 200,000 buys) at say $40 per buy that generates 8 million dollars which combined with the gate and site fee leaves enough money for everyone to get paid. If you don't want to pay for fights simply get used to the fact that you will be watching guys that don't mind fighting for $200,000. See how many top fighters you are going to see in action.

 

At $50 per buy that fight generated 105 million in PPV buys maybe a little more than that. Would more people have watched if it was on network TV? Absolutly. Would enough people have watched to jusity the network charging advertisers $105 million to push their products? Absolutly not.

If the fight had been on network TV more people would have watched it but it would have generated less money