Is prime ortiz (now) better than a prime jose luis castillo?

only somebody who doesn't understand what is going on inside the ring would think that ****

 

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Posted by Gooners!

Something I have noticed about Mayweather, he goes back in a straight line when he does not see that perfect opportunity to get off first.

Castillo did not pressure Mayweather per say, not in the conventional way by throwing lots of punches etc, he built a momentum of pressure, now he did this by constantly using shoulder/head feints as he rolled foward, which maneuvered Mayweather out of the centre, and back toward the killzone. Mayweather would go straight back when Castillo rolled foward, because when Mayweather does not see that perfect opportunity to get off first on you, because! your using those head/shoulder feints, he has a tendency to move back, take you into the killzone, then he will either reset you by taking you one way (say to the left), then the other (say to the right), then when he has reset you, and has you dancing to his tune, he will catch you in transition when your trying to catch up with him, he will leap in and catch you with the left hook as your turning(Corrales), or!, he will go straight back on the line, then when his back hits the ropes, most people think they have him where they want him, and so throw combination's at him, only that is what he wants, cause if you dont set the combo up with the jab, then go to the body and bring the shots up, and you just get a rush of blood to the head throwing punches, it makes it easier for Mayweather to roll with them, or it makes it easier for him to move if you dont connect/pin him down with the first punch.


What Castillo did, when he got to the periphery of the killzone, was wait on Mayweather, applying that mental pressure, which in turn did not give Mayweather that perfect opportunity to slip away, or draw him in so he could roll with punches then slip away, which is what made Mayweather feel very uncomfortable, as he had little offense to work his defense off. Mayweather was forced to be the guy getting off first, only he was having to do it whilst under mental pressure, mental pressure cause Castillo was pressing him off the front foot where he had little room for maneuver and so felt a little uncomfortable.


There were times when Mayweather would throw punches from out of range, now early on Castillo was using the game plan, only it was not playing as much dividends and he would of liked, simply because although he was doing the right thing, he just needed to apply a little more pressure, take advantage of those spots where he maneuvered Floyd where he wanted him, those places where he made Mayweather feel uncomfortable.
Early on Castillo, whilst he had been implementing his game plan, was just missing that extra bit of pressure, even though he was making Floyd feel uncomfortable, he will still giving Floyd just enough time to think and get off, but in the mid rounds he began to apply a bit more pressure, he built that momentum of pressure, but stayed smart, still made sure he kept his head/shoulder feints going as he maneuvered Floyd into the killzone, then was able to pick his opportunities better when to attack, when he saw Floyd was looking like he was in uncomfortable positions.


DLH showed showed that against Mayweather, if you press him near the ropes, but do it by using the jab, that Mayweather can be neutralized somewhat, cause Mayweather goes straight back in a line when attacked.

I think the idea when pressing Mayweather is to press him from periphery of the killzone, dont let him draw you into the corners looking to fetch him out, cause that give him opportunities to get away. Maintain distance, wait on him so you can maneuver him to where you want him, then attack, but attack from behind the jab, go down stairs, bring your shots up, now this is not easy to do against Mayweather cause he is a smart fighter, you to be mindful not to fall alseep behind the wheel, cause he will try and use the movement to reset you, then when he has you dancing to his tune, he will look to catch you in transition when resetting you, that way he can get off first and get himself out of a vulnerable spot. You also have to make sure you keep you shoulder/head feints going as you roll foward, and maintain distance at all times, dont forget, counter punchers need/want to draw you into mid range, cause that is where they can counter, roll with your punches better.

Thats my two sense I what I saw anyway.

 

Tough Castillo was Julio Cesar Chavez's sparring partner ..The alone gave JLC an edge in the experience dept

 

Not even close to being as good as Castillo overall. He does have a power advantage though.