is prince naseem the most underated fighter?

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  1. BoB Box

    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    "Hidden Benefits" Like that only applied to Nas? Seems like your reaching.
     
  2. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Entertaining I think so - one of the best ever? I don’t think so, I don’t think many people think that and if they did then you could call him overrated.

    I think he was another world champion and like most he was elite and he lost like the rest because it’s just the way it is - sometimes.
     
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  3. janitor

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    His net worth today is 33 million. I think that puts him ahead of any of his contemporaries except Lewis.
     
  4. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    damn, that's close to a mill a fight, good for naz.
     
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  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    If you look at a list of the richest living boxers, you will find British fighters are over represented.
     
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Twenty years out, you could 5x your networth or blow it depending on outside the ring choices.

    it’s also hard to trust those estimates.
     
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  7. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    they are def estimates.

    if naz bought a decent amount of property 20 years ago the 33 mill figure might be low. contrary to popular ideas he gave a lot that to his family.
     
  8. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Professor, with all due respect, what are you talking about? You say once he started to face better fighters that wasn't enough. Which fighters are you talking about?

    Is it Manuel Medina, Tom Johnson, Wilfredo Vazquez, Kevin Kelley, Paul Ingle and Vuyani Bungu, all of whom Hamed knocked out, or is it Wayne McCollough and Cesar Soto, both who were decisioned easily by Hamed.

    I was not a fan of the guy. Hamed was arrogant, pompous and eminently unlikeable but other than losing to Hall of Famer Barrera, 8 rounds to 4, Hamed was a successful, high quality boxer.
     
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  9. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's rated properly by pretty much everyone. Animalistic puncher with some of the worst technique ever
     
  10. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if that is the worst technique ever then thousands of guys wasted their lives. compared to hamed they look like **** and can't break an egg.
     
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  11. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Lets give it some perspective.

    He has more money today than Larry Holmes, and he is one of the fifteen richest boxers in the world, of who six are British.
     
  12. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    I was a big Naz fan back in the day, so I'll try to be as impartial as possible...
    I actually feel he's both underrated AND overrated. My sense is that he was a stylistically awkward, terrific puncher who, like him or not, had real star quality. I actually think he was, at one point, very, very good, probably peaking in around '94 - '96 when he seemed to perfectly blend reflexes with his unorthodox style.
    A lack of dedication to training, becoming overly reliant on power, fall-outs with his trainer and hand problems all contributed to a fairly steep decline - added to that the excellent technique of MAB.
    Barrera beat him. But he had to work for it. And Naz was a fairly heavy favourite going into that one, from memory. But, realistically, the warning signs had been there for his last few fights. I think he was declining by that point.
    But Hamed still beat some very good fighters along the way - McCullough, Kelly, Medina, Johnson. And he did so fairly easily.
    Ultimately I view him as a bit of a shooting star who shone brightly for a few years but then fizzled out. I'm not saying for a moment he was the best featherweight of all time. And I do think the elites of that era would probably have been too much for him (Marquez, Morales, Pac-man). But I do think he tends to get underrated because of the nature of his first - and only - loss. And his boasts which he failed to live up to. Plus some of his later, not great performances. But, at his best, he was a real handful for anyone.
     
  13. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let's be honest, Hamed technique wise looked like he had never spent a day in a ring in his entire life. Thank God for him he had the power of a greek god :lol::lol:
     
  14. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the exact opposite.

    a guy who has never been in a ring gets ko'd by the first straight right that gets thrown at them. nas dodged it, laughed, then hit the guy harder than he'd ever been hit.

    that post is exacly why i started the thread. complete bull**** aimed at a very very good fighter.
     
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  15. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I never said he wasn't very good. I liked Hamed. He was a monster. The thread is "was he underrated" and no...............I don't think he was. Everyone acknowledged his gun slinger ability. He absolutely lacked "craft"............and there's no argument to disprove that, we all saw him multiple times. You seem hung up on me not liking the aesthetics of the man..........welp