Is punch quality the reason people think Hopkins won?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jack, Apr 20, 2008.


  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm baffled as to why there are so many different opinions on this fight. The majority, like myself, think Calzaghe won, but a lot believe Hopkins won easily, which I can't understand at all.

    Is it because Calzaghe throws weak punches? His slaps are certainly there for show, whereas Hopkins threw less, but harder shots.

    If Calzaghe was throwing hard shots rather than his pitty-pat rubbish, would there have been less votes for Hopkins? Calzaghe landed more, threw more and landed with a higher accuracy, so what other reason could there be?

    Regardless of the quality of punches, Calzaghe won. He was the ring general, was more attackign and had better defence. Not to mention the Compubox stats.
     
  2. Irländsk

    Irländsk Boxing Addict banned

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    Anyone who thinks Hopkins won is one or all of the following,
    a. Hopkins fanboy
    b. Calzaghe hater
    c. Blind
    d. ******ed
     
  3. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only reason why people think Bhops won is because they are Bhops nuthuggers. These are the same people who defend his crap boring style on the forum and boast about his legacy based on him beating blown up lightweights like ODH.
     
  4. jupzrooni

    jupzrooni Tyler Durden Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  5. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Punch quality and how the punches land. Hopkins landed so much more cleaner with bigger more effective shots.

    It isn't amateur boxing where each punch is equal, if 1 fighter throws better harder shots you have to account for that

    I actually thought the punchstats were wrong and Calazage missed much more shots than the punchstats give credit to. Enzo and Roach both said Hopkins was winning for reason

    You said Calazage had a better defense?????? He got hit far more flush and got more hurt in the fight, Hopkins was never bothered by anything Calazage threw (above the waist)
     
  6. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You missed the 'All of the above' choice for Punchpower.
     
  7. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm suprised you can talk with Calazages **** half way down your throat. I actually picked Calazage to beat Hopkins, Lacy and Kessler, I must be a hater, he still got schooled and looked amateurish. I've also posted many critical posts about BHOPs, so I must be a BHOPs fanboy :huh

    The truth is I know boxing, and most of you ignorant ESB losers score punches that miss and think thats masterful boxing :yep
     
  8. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought it was a tough fight that was difficult to score. Originally I gave it to Calzaghe by two rounds but after watching the fight again today (without beer) I thought Calzaghe won the fight even more clearly. Calzaghe was more agressive, landed a lot more punches (regardless of quality) and tried to make a fight out of it. Hopkins continually held, managed to score a great KD, threw few scoring punches throughout the fight and backpeddled the timed he wasn't doing 'The Ruiz'. I just find it difficult to accept that anyone could have awarded that fight to Hopkins, even when several rounds were very close.
     
  9. Smirf

    Smirf Lets get ready to rumble Full Member

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    i wanted calzaghe to win but i think hopkins won that fight he landed more shots plus the knockdown and as for compubox it should be scrapped who invented that load of shite
     
  10. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe had it by a good 3 rounds and tha is without the ref in ability to take a point of Hop for fighting like the way he did.
     
  11. halfamazin1

    halfamazin1 Member Full Member

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    Yes, punch quality is why...this isn't the ****in golden gloves or the olympics...you don't get points for work rate or more punches thrown...its by the most effective and meaningful punches and who controlled the fight...
     
  12. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Both fighters looked terrible IMO. Calzaghe looked like a little girl swatting at attacking bees, while hopkins looked terrible throwing his one punch and ducking his head while lunging in.

    Yes, Hopkins landed a few more meaningful punches. But not enough to win the fight. you can't land 15 punches a round (only maybe 2 being good punches) while the other guy lands 30 punches a round and expect to win.
    Regardless of how ugly Joe looked.

    Joe won for the exact same reason Taylor won and B-hop is still bitching. Joe C simply let his hands go. He didnt outclass bhop. he didnt do anything special. He was just the busier man. You would think bhop would have learned his lesson by now. He's lost 3 fights b/c he wasn't active enough in the ring.

    It's that simple.
     
  13. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So you think hopkins contolled the fight?
     
  14. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I scored the fight for Calzaghe by 1 point, but I felt that Hopkins landed the cleaner, harder shots - this was established immediately with the knockdown in round 1 and I felt that Hopkins staggered Joe with clean punches on a few other occasions too.

    When there was an exchange of punches I felt that Hopkins generally came out on top, but he failed to get involved in enough exchanges to win.

    Calzaghe won the fight - just. And I feel that he certainly DESERVED the win more because he initiated most of the action while Hopkins' initiated most of the fouls, held constantly and I basically feel that he cheated by taking time out for the 'phantom low blow'.

    Thankfully, justice prevailed!

    Does anyone seriously believe that Hopkins DESERVED to win? What sort of message would that have sent out?
     
  15. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Hopkins did land the harder shots but in no way did he win this fight ..Joe just outworked him as predicted ..