Is punching power proof of physical strength

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  1. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i personally know or have known guys that have gotten into fights that are physically very weak but have put people on their asses.... one punch power has to do with other things aside from physical strength
     
  2. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yup I've seen skinny guys KO Bigger muscular guys plenty of times
     
  3. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Def not

    Look at Firat Arslan, he is strong like a mule, punches like a girl

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  4. wayne3280

    wayne3280 Active Member Full Member

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    Not quite that simple though, as you have inferred that energy and power are the same thing, which is incorrect. Power is the rate at which energy is transferred.

    Physics does exist in boxing, just not your physics. :thumbsup
     
  5. IceJohnScully

    IceJohnScully Active Member Full Member

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    I can ASSURE you, from my own personal experience anyway, that punching power and physical strength are two very different things... i have boxed many guys who had good sharp power in ther punches but when it came to physically moving someone around the ring they were at a disadvantage. There are plenty of big strong looking guys, big muscles and all, who punch very weakly compared to others in their same weight class.
     
  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Not really. Carlos Baldomir is strong in there, he couldn't knock out my 92 year old Grandmother.

    And vice-versa, Jimmy Wilde was built like a stick insect and knock lumps out of granite.

    We're talking leverage, speed, technique and timing here. It's not related.
     
  7. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    both your poll selections are innacurate.

    the answer to the question is no, even though punching power and physical strength are not different things altogether.
     
  8. BoxingWM

    BoxingWM Member Full Member

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    From a physics point of view punching power is an amount of kinetic energy one has to absorb.

    Kinetic energy is defined by:

    Ekin = 0.5 * m * v^2

    m is mass
    v is velocity at impact

    Lets talk about m first. A bigger foe has more mass, so he will generally punch harder. Of course he can choose how much weight he can put into a punch ("how much of his body is behind that punch"), but generally he will be able to punch harder than a small guy.

    Generally a guy who can speed up that mass more will punch harder. You need high acceleration to reach high speeds. Acceleration is proportional to force. A strong guy can generate more force than a weak guy, so he will generally punch harder. It's not that easy here though. A guy with long arms should punch harder as well, because he has a longer way to accelarate his "mass". The same with straight punches - they will be weaker than the "hayemakers", because of the short acceleration way.

    Personally I think a boxer can always choose the amount of weight he puts into a punch, so it's hard to say who punches harder... From the theoretical point of view a Wlad Klitschko or Lennox Lewis should be one of the hardest punchers in heavyweight history. They are weighting in excess of 240 lbs, have both long arms (Lennox' are longer) and are both very strong and athletic. In the real world Lennox right was harder, because it was less straight than Wlad's and he put more weight into it.
     
  9. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    The guy in my avatar is incontrovertable proof that the correct answer is NO.
     
  10. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Damn, I voted the first option but of course wanted to take the second one.
     
  11. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I like this from a scientific viewpoint. It all makes sense.

    You also have to consider the boxing factors such as the ability to naturally time a punch on a moving target as well as getting leverage through the body to get a true reflection of a puncher.

    The scientific formula only works if you are punching a heavy bag. It's more a measurement of natural power without factoring in effective power.
     
  12. BoxingWM

    BoxingWM Member Full Member

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    Yeah, this only describes the raw 'punching power'. The ability to deliver it right on the button is another story.
     
  13. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    which is the point I tried to make with some of these knuckle heads, to them punching power is sure sign of physical strength. agreed is that when you start moving these guys around the ring physically you take away there advantage of punching power.
     
  14. 41fever

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  15. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Not at all.

    Plenty of guys are beasts within their weightclass without being huge punchers