Is punching power the most overrated attribute in boxing and are devastating punchers a myth?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Luis Fernando, Sep 15, 2018.

Is punching power the most overrated attribute in boxing?

  1. Yes

    15 vote(s)
  2. No

    93 vote(s)
  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

    May 4, 2012
    Having an iron chin is the most overrated
  2. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

    Sep 5, 2016
    Pretty much. Attritional guys like Vitali with high stoppage ratios due to just grinding down their opponents can't be considered in the same ballpark of punching power as the one punch lights out guys like Tyson, Tua, Wilder and co.
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  3. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. Full Member

    Jul 22, 2019
    If he wanted to lose with Ali why decide to lose both fights? Wouldnt have 1 fight on 2 been enough?
    Fixing the 1st fight he could have made a lot of money.
    Winning the second much more money than in the 1st.

    Nah, something's bugging me.
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2023
  4. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jan 22, 2009
  5. Mike_b

    Mike_b Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jul 9, 2020
    What op forgot to mention is that it gets harder to get emphatic kos going up in the higher levels as the talent increases making it harder to score kos at the elite levels.

    We've all seen "duds" a fight which goes 12 rounds instead of the power puncher steamrolling him as usual. Some journey men are tough as nails. There is a guy in Ike ibeabuchi s career who was a gate keeper, his body was SHREDDED and he could take a punch I forget his name. Then you have clowns/ amusers as the talent of the top tier but make a mockery out of fights like Emmanuel Augustus always clowning around. He was Floyd's stiffest test and was Kimbo slices cousin.
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jun 25, 2014
    George Foreman was 48 years old when he fought Lou Savarese, for God's sake.

    They say the last thing to go on a fighter is his power. And the last thing to go on George was his power. His KO punch against Moorer was his last knockout.
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  7. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

    Aug 26, 2020

    That's interesting - so how did Ali manage to make Liston's neck & back ripple with impact?

    Ali was the GOAT HW, but even he couldn't do that.

    Maybe the wind from the punch made those ripples?
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  8. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! Full Member

    Dec 18, 2019

    Noaya Inoue. The Monster.
  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Nobody ever punched hard.

    The impacts of each and every punch ever thrown were tiny, and identical.
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  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain VIP Member Full Member

    Jan 6, 2007
    I believe you're wrong on that claim.

    There is no doubt whatsoever that a punch was thrown and that it connected.

    You can argue as to whether or not its was a KO-calibre punch.

    Last edited: Jun 4, 2023
  11. cuchulain

    cuchulain VIP Member Full Member

    Jan 6, 2007
    In fact I believe that can be proven mathematically.
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  12. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 4, 2005
    That art of the KO is more than just about raw power, so yes power is over rated as an attribute because if you can't deliver that power then it's less effective which is why a puncher can look murderous in one fight but then lacking power in another because the style of their opponent has been able to prevent them from landing that KO punch.

    For me there's 3 aspects to being an effective puncher.

    1 - Power - the ability to generate power itself which is achieved by technique and conditioning the body.

    2 - Set up - the ability to either set a trap to land a flush shot or a combination of shots or the ability to create a gap in their opponents defence to land a flush shot or combination.

    3 - Delivery/Timing - even if you have set up your opponent or created an opening you still must deliver than shot with precise timing and accuracy before they can anticipate it coming and brace for impact or roll with the shot to take away some of it's power.

    If all 3 are achieved then the KO comes but if an opponent can prevent the set up or anticipate the punches coming then they negate the power.
  13. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 1, 2010
    Give me skill and superior ring IQ over punching power any day.
  14. Alfo1998

    Alfo1998 just an Italian guy Full Member

    Sep 16, 2018
    I would say yes, but only considering the fact that casual boxing fans tend to celebrate only the hard puncher fighters. In that case, fighters that sell lot of PPV seems to be just the type of guys who have a lot of ko. Meanwhile the most skilled fighters sell much more less ppv, and then they would obviously wait for big pay day instaed of take risks with no regard guaranteed.
    Crawford, Loma, Usyk, Bivol, Stevenson, Haney ecc.. fatigued more to reach high level numbers compared to Davis, Ggg, Joshua, Garcia, Spence ecc.. i know that fighters who dont speak english have difficult, but when they beat some famous fighter, they immediatly gain recognize from the big public. Moreover, every famous fighter tend to duck some of these skilled fighters who dont bring much money on the table. A side, B side, and bull**** like this, dont allow fans to see what they want to see.
  15. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jun 6, 2022
    that video doesn't prove anything, the punch is completely hidden at the time it either connected or missed.