Is Rigondeaux's win over Donaire better than any of Mayweather's

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  1. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Donaire was one of the very best Flyweights ever, I can only think of a couple in history who would've beaten him at Flyweight. He managed to be very successful at Super Bantamweight and weighed in at 138lbs on fight night. Rigo beat him after Nonito won Fighter of the Year.

    It definitely was the best win. Great, great performance too.
     
  2. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not even close, every opponent you named is way better of a win, especially once we readjust and start to understand how over rated flash was, he wasn't ever close to a p4p#5 never-ending 1.

    Canelo was as green as fmj was, is that considered green now ???
    Cotto a was younger thand fmj and had his best career performance post losing badly to fmj.

    Ssm was coming directly off his greatest performance.

    Odh wasn't as old as you want to claim. The only arguments you havery is Odh being a fully fledged low and moving down zapped his body.

    The ONLY injury pac had that was legit was his ego got shattered.

    And both jlc and Corrales are better fighters and betters wins than flash.

    If you wanted to get really into it, there's more fmj victims that are also better wins.

    Worst troll on here., no matter which although you use your trolling is pathletic. Or you're the dumbest and most ignorant forum troll there is
     
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  3. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So you're saying that flash at nearly 140 lbs was in peak fighting condition ,mentally and physically ???

    Most of you should understand the meaning of "prime"
     
  4. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I never said he was prime, but he was in very good condition and came off winning Fighter of the Year as a result. He was also up against a TINY 122lber in Rigo. All of the cards were stacked to his favour. When you're nearly 140lbs against someone who's 124lbs on fight night, you have a huge advantage.
     
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  5. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Love that fight,it's a slow builder and hard to pick a winner from as Donaire caught Rigondeux(no small feat)that last round though showed how dangerous Rigondeux is,Frampton,Quigg and Santa Cruz don't just duck for "business decisions alone" Rigondeux is seriously dangerous and can hurt you,yes he's a counter puncher and can go rounds without hardly doing anything but when he wants to he can really hurt folk?
     
  6. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    ^ one clear winner it was a clinc
    dr rigo weighed measured and cured nonito in under an hour
     
  7. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You only have an advantage if you're equally or closely leveled talent and skills. If I remember correctly, flash wasn't in good condition first ghost fight at all. Takes nothing away from rigondeaux but flash was way over weight and way too heavy on fight night.

    It wasn't only rigondeaux that made flash look.slow, clumsy and very medicare skilled. He was literally out of shape, not only fighting shape (horrific fight shape) he thought of rigo as a joke of a fight, he thought he'd go in there and blast him ou5, didn't happen and he mentally folded by round 4,5 he knew he wasaid without a paddle.

    He spent that entire fight trying for the 1 p7nch ko ONLY. By the time he finally landes cleanly enough with the right type of shot he had zero left and couldn't even hurt rigondeaux.

    He knocked him on his ass but rigo wasn't hurt in any way. Flash had to come in.absolutely peak condition, not flabby, out of shape and well over weight.

    Rigondeaux is a great fighter but that fight didn't help him in my opinion. Ain't hindsight a great great thinges.

    Wicked over rated for whooping on a couple midgets. Vic and moral those ko's got the general gullible public thinking he's an attempt, when he's very far grom.that, Hoffman, yes but he couldn't quite get there because he thought he could get by strictly on talent alone.

    He did for a while, when he was fighting much smaller (than himself) lower level fighters.

    Rigondeaux is elite and he has zero resume, nobody on there except flash and we all know he was never near the level people wanted him.to.be on
     
  8. Faceplant

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    Of course it was, without question.
     
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  9. drenlou

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    Absolutely Not. Pacquaio was a bigger win.
     
  10. drenlou

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    Genaro Hernandez was a Bigger win. JLC was a bigger win.
     
  11. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    No , because most people in the know knew Donaire was a lazy hooker and the fight was going to be a one sided pasting.
     
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  12. Eastpaw

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    Your username is hilarious
     
  13. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    You're going at unnecessary depth to explain how awful Donaire's performance was. That's not the point. Weight advantage is weight advantage - Donaire is the best at leveraging that, hence why he's one of the very best ever at Flyweight. Again, he didn't look as impressive at 122 but he still looked very, very impressive, hence winning Fighter of the Year. This time he was up against the smallest super bantamweight ever in Rigo.
    Mayweather's best opponents were all in poor condition other than Castillo, far worse than Donaire's.
    Donaire is a first ballot HOF'er.
     
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  14. drenlou

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    And besides, who did he beat of worth besides Darch or Montiel during his reign?
     
  15. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Canelo was only 23 when he fought Floyd. Most fighters don't hit their prime until 25-30. I think Canelo has gotten better. Don't you?

    Cotto had already been knocked out by Margarito and Pacquiao and was much better at light welterweight than he was at junior middleweight. His best career performance was either against Mosley or Margarito. He got lucky that Martinez entered the ring with one leg the same as Floyd got lucky Pacquiao only had one good arm.

    Shane Mosley's career defining win against Oscar De La Hoya was already ten years in the rearview mirror when he fought Floyd and he'd been beaten five times since then by Vernon Forrest, Winky Wright, and Miguel Cotto. Come on, the guy was 39 and hasn't had a decent win since.

    Oscar was 2-2 in his last 4 fights and he still held Floyd to a SD that Floyd's own father said Oscar won.

    Pacquiao had a torn rotator cuff and couldn't use his main punching arm. Meanwhile, Floyd was full of roids.

    Castillo is a good fighter who held a belt at one weight class but Donaire is a great fighter who captured belts at five weight classes. Castillo had ten title fights, lost three. Donaire has had eighteen title fights and lost two. Castillo's got Johnston, Casamayor, and Corrales on his record. Donaire has Darchinyan, Marquez, Montiel, Narvaez, Nishioka, and Arce. Donaire's just more impressive any way you slice it.

    Corrales has three good names on his ledger: Castillo, Casamayor, and Freitas. Of those three, Castillo and Casamayor both knocked him out. He's basically just hanging his reputation on one great fight against Castillo that happened years after Mayweather fought him.