Is "ring rust" even a real thing?

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  1. Eastpaw

    Eastpaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This has always interested me because I can't understand how a fighter would be "rusty" during a fight.. After all of the sparring sessions, all of the brutal training & that last week of camp, it would be kind of ridiculous to imagine a fighter not being at his best. Look at Mayweather-Marquez for example, that was floyds sharpest performance in his entire career. I actually think an abundance of time away from the ring is beneficial.

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  2. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I don't fight profesionally so I don't know but a few things that would spring to my mind are things like pacing yourself (if you're constantly fighting you can probably do it more consistently, better), general confidence and the mental aspect coming into the fight.

    That's assuming during your time off you were still properly training all the time.
     
  3. panchman69

    panchman69 Boxing Addict Full Member

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  4. trumperZ06

    trumperZ06 Active Member Full Member

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    Yes !!!

    Your anticipation and reaction time improves with constant use.

    "Ring Rust" (general statement) occurs in all sports activities.

    Example: that's why baseball has spring training, and it shows up when racing automobiles, tennis, basketball, and so forth.

    ;)
     
  5. Eastpaw

    Eastpaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes but wouldn't a fighter just train and spar off that ring rust? A fight a fight after three rounds... The initial nerves wouldn't be there anymore because the adrenaline would have kicked in. Ring rust and being rusty for other sports like basketball and football are completely different because sports like basketball are called "games". Boxing is not a "game"
     
  6. trumperZ06

    trumperZ06 Active Member Full Member

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    :lol: I have seen articles that use the term... Boxing and/or fight game.

    I agree that professional boxing isn't a game. But then, when does pro football... not become a "game" ?

    Any time one guy is out to intentionally hurt (injure) his opponent..
    I think the "contest" no longer is a "game".

    :D If the boxers "spar" at 100 % effort then "ring rust" wouldn't occur, or sparing at 100% would "knock it off".

    But then, you wouldn't have many boxers in condition to fight in the matches.

    ;)
     
  7. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Sparring is a lot more casual than a professional fight or even an amateur fight.
     
  8. theword

    theword Well-Known Member Full Member

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    plus, no one spars at 100% and if you do you won't be in that camp long.
     
  9. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It doesn't make sense to me either. Perhaps it has more to do with performance under intense pressure and under the lights. This cannot be simulated. However , most everything else can be simulated in sparring.

    Which is probably why Floyd showed zero ring rust in his various comebacks, especially the one against Marquez. Floyd is also known to go hard in sparring, the doghouse and all that.
     
  10. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    When The elite guys beat up their sparring partners they get new ones. Ward is also known to go hard in sparring.
     
  11. AREA 53

    AREA 53 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep, beating up the boss in sparring is a definate no-no, unless you want to be shown the exit sign, When Ali had that Rushed comeback that was geared up to the Frazier Money-spinner he fought Quarry and looked good but three rounds was not enough, Quarry and others felt it might of got interesting if not for the early termination, Rust was a worry, it certainly appeared to show itself in the next fight with Bonavena, Ali looked sluggish and out of sorts, He really could of done with another warm-up as a final sharpner..
     
  12. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    A single fight seems of too short a duration to act much of a sharpener. The ratio of time spent sparring versus time in a real fight is massively tilted on the former. especially now with these long layoffs. I really think it has much more to do with accilimitization to fighting in front if an audience, pressure, etc. than sharpening skills.
     
  13. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Like a car. Its runs better and faster after broken in. :yep
     
  14. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No doubt. He suffered a huge gash while sparring with headgear for the Super Six final. :yep
     
  15. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Remember all the **** Froch talked about it? :lol: