Is Rob McCracken a terrible trainer

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  1. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First Joshua now Yafai

    He should've stopped the fight

    After round 9

    It was clear that Yafai had no chance of winning barring robbery

    What do they even work on in camp?

    Can't be defense

    Yafai was just standing there in a straight line in the line of fire
     
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  2. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think that he was able to get as much out of Joshua as he did is actually remarkable.
     
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  3. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    Use your 1-2 that`s all he taught him, he didn`t even did drills on the pads with AJ using his left hook.
     
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  4. TNSNO1878

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    McCracken is a great amateur trainer and was a solid professional fighter, but his inability to adapt as a trainer was masked when he trained Froch, as Froch was able to walk through walls regardless of how tough it was getting. Yafai took a career-changing beating at the weekend, and it was obvious that by the halfway point of that fight, he was totally outclassed. You could make the argument that Groves did the same to Froch in his first fight. Still, Froch's pure grit got him through, which is why McCracken is less inclined to stop fights than other trainers. Yafai took some major shots in almost every round. It was worrying how little he was able to adapt, given his strong amateur pedigree.
     
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  5. offshoot

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    Froch - unified champ, 2 time champ and first ballot hall of famer

    Joshua - unified champ in 19 fights, 2 time champ, olympic gold medal

    And loads more Medals in major tournaments as GB head coach.

    He's had plenty of success as a boxing trainer.
     
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  6. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. McCracken’s success speaks for itself. If anything he’s an excellent trainer.
     
  7. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Understanding build and body mechanics is a big part of know what a fighter can and can't do
     
  8. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ...and if Joshua had continued listening to him, their association would have been longer and even more successful. But Joshua knew better, didn't he.
     
  9. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In the end it's whether you have a champion heart or not. A good trainer is nice, but look inside yourself and find your own destiny.
    -Anthony Joshua, Order of British Empire
     
  10. Soulfire

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    He's a terrible trainer, as evidenced by his fighters having poor technique and gameplans. He's had the success he's had because of the quality of the fighters he's had. Unsuspecting fighters go to him, thinking he's good. In the UK, it's all about who you know and your "reputation", not about how good you are. But in the actual boxing ring, it's all about how good you are (barring robberies and British stoppages). If I coached Novak Djokovic, then I'd probably be quite a successful tennis trainer based on the results of the player I'm coaching, but it still won't make me a good trainer.
     
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  11. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua was listening to him in the first Usyk fight, where Rob was yelling "brilliant, AJ!" when he was getting his ass whooped and provided no alternative gameplan for the bout.
     
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  12. ash234

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    Doesn't train head movement and incapable of giving out instructions when a fight isn't going his fighters way. Just comes out with the generic stuff.
     
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  13. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His brother was a world champion in bowling , his name was/is Ernie....
     
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  14. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    The pros are where it counts and he`s only had success with AJ and Froch and could only take AJ so far, AJ should have fired McCracken after his loss to Ruiz.
     
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  15. offshoot

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    He's not had that many pro fighters. I don't know how many pro boxers exactly he's trained, but it must be only about 8 to 10.

    He's mostly been an amateur coach. His ratio of how many pro fighters he's trained to how successful they have been is impressive. Froch is a hall of famer and Joshua probably will be too.
     
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