Is Rob McCracken a World Class Trainer now?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by ninebar, Apr 26, 2009.


  1. SeasideSlugger

    SeasideSlugger Active Member Full Member

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    He's come in for a fair bit of stick in the past, and it's the first time we've heard most of what he has to say in a fight.

    Pretty much on the money the whole night, read the fight exactly as it was.

    It must be bloody frustrating when your fighter has most of the tools but doesn't seem to use them as you'd ideally like.

    How many times must he say in the gym "GET YOUR ****ING LEFT HAND UP!!!"
     
  2. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    yeh McCracken looks a very good trainer. Who else does he work with?
     
  3. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What ****ing reason did they have to be critical?
    Jesus wept!:patsch
    I thought McCracken did a spot on job!
     
  4. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    His advice was spot on

    But everyone saying Froch should get his left hand up - come on

    He isn't gonna start doing that now is he
     
  5. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    robert was top class and also very loyal after losing his mum to be in froch's corner for the pascal fight i thought that was top class. he cares for his fighters and also has a plan.

    froch fights the way he fights because he's into the macho side of sport and some fighters have to take big risks to get the rewards and froch leaves himself open so that he can explode with powerful counters.

    if you watch in mid rounds froch started putting hands up for few seconds every so often and hitting taylor with ease. froch i hope learns to take all robs advice but i doubt he will although he has apologized which is only right.

    what i like about rob is that he thinks about the tactical and technical points and gets it over well which is hard in that type situation. imo the older robs gets the better and better he will become.
     
  6. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    heard this too dont know why

    i do think some fighters need an animated coach but not Froch for example Moorer vs Holyfield 1 but these are rare fighters and rare instances

    dosent he work with the Mick Hennesey boys like Barker etc..

    my view on McKracken

    he was good he told him the right advise in a calmed controlled manner which i like in a corner, he had worked out a game plan that was effective see the last few rounds but Froch didnt always stick to it my only critisism is he must be letting Froch drop his left hand in training as he constantly does it so he must work on that also i think early he should have got abit more angry with Froch not animated but maybe a quiet word in his ear were losing this or something like tghat
     
  7. debaser

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    Agreed. Spot on advice but if he can't convince his man to remember the basics then he cannot be described as a world class trainer.
     
  8. debaser

    debaser Active Member Full Member

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    Think about this, as good as McCracken's advice was, Froch ignored every word of it. Look at Pac listening to Freddie Roach in between rounds and he's absolutely transfixed. Froch just didn't have any faith in what McCracken was telling him and decided to disregard it and go it alone.
     
  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Froch ignored McCracken for the most part.so I dont see where credit is due,I thought Froch was very lucky myself he needed a ko to win imo and as Taylor faded he got it.Froch has horrible fundamentals he has the defence of a man with no arms two left feet and throws sloppy uppercuts from out of range.Kessler will eat him.
     
  10. captain k

    captain k Member Full Member

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    Truth is I think frochs ego gets in the way off him listening to any trainer. Mccracken done a great job
    Kept calm gave great advice but it fell on deaf ears even after the knockdown froch refused to keep
    His hands up. As many people have said its a macho thing with froch but if that knock down didn't humble him
    I hate to see what will
     
  11. margo82

    margo82 Active Member Full Member

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    Our trainers are very good in the corner, but don't think they're actually good in the training aspect.

    I don't think people like McGirt, Roger Mayweather, Floyd Mayweather Sr etc actually give good advice in the corners, but they're great in the gym.

    Whereas people like McCracken, Booth and Graham are very good in the corners, talk a lot of sense.
     
  12. captain k

    captain k Member Full Member

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    good point
     
  13. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly.

    There's no point telling him to keep his hands up all of a sudden now that he's got to world level; its too late, he should have that engrained into him in training and earlier in his career. This is the fighters and the trainers fault.