Is Robert Whittaker the goat MW?

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  1. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Destroyed Jacare, thoroughly dominated Romero after tearing his knee in 1st. These were two of the best ever to compete at the weight and he made them look like journeymen. People may call Anderson Silva the best but I can't see any version of the guy who went life and death with Travis Lutter and Sonnen being able to thwart the grappling of Jacare or Romero. Whittaker's TDD as progressed to the point where he's nearly impossible to takedown. Whittaker is also a better all-round striker than Anderson ever was. Anderson only excelled as a counter striker, he needed to force the lead in order to find success, if not he would struggle (e.g. Maia, Cote). Whittaker's just as effective on the front foot as he is on the backfoot and he can fight on the inside as well. Overall his striking arsenal is wider than Silva's. Stamina is also proven to be great as he was able to outwork Romero severely in the 5th. He's still young and on the come up but the UFC MW division has historically outside of the last few years been so weak that an argument can be made he's the GOAT H2H at MW.
     
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  2. mirkofilipovic

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    We were saying the same thing for Weidman and look what happened :aplastao:. Its still too early to tell anyway, MMA is more unpredictable due to the various factors playing a huge part in each fight.
     
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  3. Kevin Willis

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    The Akhbar one claims Romero is still a better fight, Whitaker only won due to better cardio according to him. LOL
     
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  4. ForemanJab

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    That's true but he's better than Weidman ever was and much younger so there's room for him to grow. Plus the reason for Weidman's sudden decline was largely caused by stricter doping regulations.
     
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  5. 3rdegree

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    Didn't Stephen Thompson destroy Whittaker in under a round?
     
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  6. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Assuming this knee injury isn't serious I have a hard time seeing anyone currently in the MW division beating Whittaker. Mousasi might be an interesting fight.
     
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  7. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's obviously developed greatly since then.
     
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    3rdegree Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I just saw the video of the Thompson fight and it wasn't even competitive. I believe fighters can improve but only to a certain degree. Whittaker would have to re-invent himself in order to reverse the outcome of their fight. He barely landed a punch on the vastly superior Thompson.
     
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  9. UnleashtheFURY

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    Like others have said... It's good to be careful making these posts. But the way this kid has put things together is amazing. It's hard to see anyone beating him currently, and prime Silva wouldn't have any easy nights work. Silva still has a considerable edge resume and longevity wise, but you might be right about Whittaker H2H being the best MW ever.
     
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  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Whittaker was fighting at Welterweight and draining himself to make the weight, he was also just a kid... Do you hold the loss to Court McGee against him as well? That's a far bigger eye sore on his record, but even that doesn't mean **** in light of what he's accomplished since moving up in weight.
     
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  11. 3rdegree

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    It's very easy to unfairly blame weight drain for the loss to Thompson. Since he didn't even hear the bell for the second round, a weight drain advantage,if you're looking for excuses, would have been minimal. And their was a huge difference between the split decision victory that McGee gained and the total annihilation by Thompson.
     
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  12. UnleashtheFURY

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    The point I was trying to make was that he wasn't able to give it his best in any fight at the division because of the toll the weight cut took on his body, he even said this himself... Anyways. Picking at a loss from YEARS ago when he's gone on an incredible tear and has arguably cemented his spot as the #1 MW in the world is pretty ****ing stupid. Quit nitpicking. There are plenty of great fighters with humiliating losses earlier in their career.
     
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  13. 3rdegree

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    I'm saying that Thompson would annihilate him today. I'm acknowledging the degree to which I think Whittaker has improved by saying Court McGee most certainly couldn't duplicate his victory over him at his current weight.
     
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  14. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Yeah you've obviously got a bone to pick with that guy, your insight is totally useless and irrelevant to the thread.
     
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  15. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Anderson Silva has worse earlier career losses than Whittaker
     
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