Is Roberto Duran overrated?

Pachilles,
Surely by the time he gets to like 40 or whatever, it would be acceptable to excuse some of his losses ?

 

This is a cool comment!. Yes Duran overrated big and only 2 hall of fame wins in his boxing record on boxrec!. For an ATG that is terrible!!!!! and he quit with SRL!!!:verysad

 

I am consistant with every single boxer i talk about in saying that a loss is a loss. Its not fair to make excuses and claim something totally different would've happened, compared to what actually did happen. If a fighter steps into the ring and he hadn't trained properly for the fight, that is his fault! It is a weakness to enter the ring unprepared, an emotional and a mental weakness. If a fighter is "past his prime" and still enters the ring it is a weaknessunder the same principle.

 

And now the Robertards are going to the trouble of creating new accounts, and typing like idiots to discredit the image of us non-believers.

 

If you are talking ALL-TIME POUND-FOR-POUND, I disagree.
On consideration, he wouldn't get in my top 20 all-time p4p.
I mean, we're talking about all-time, every fighter who ever fought.

If you mean lightweights, I'd say he'd definitely make the top 10, perhaps top 5.

 

You can disagree with it. It just means you are underrating him.

 

Ok. That's your criteria.
:good

 

No, because everyone I'd rate above him would be thoroughly deserving. Great great fighters. :good

 

Its not criteria mate, its fact. If somebody takes those fights and wins then fine, use it. But if he loses, it cannot be excused or turned into some kind of victory

 

No, it's not fact. It's your opinion. If people have the opinion that past prime losses are excusable it's as much "fact" as your "facts".

 

Regardless, its still a loss. A loss is a loss. If you lost, you lost for a fact. It is a fact that you lost. There can be reasons behind a loss, reasons to why you lost...but a reasonable loss doesnt make a win.. An excuse doesnt excuse a loss, its still a loss. You can pretend it never happened, thats all you can do. But in real life it did happen, it is a loss no matter what. And that is why me saying a loss is a loss is FACT.

 

I voted yes as I don't think he belongs in the top 3.

top 10 without a question, but top 3 is too high imo.

 

Yes, a loss is a loss. But not all losses are the same.

 

Absolutely not! At least top 3 Lightweight of all time, even without the Leonard win he's right up there.

 

He was the best fighter of the colour TV age.

Watch him fight, glance at his record, there are enough names on there to back up what you’ve watched. Factor in his longevity… He’s as good as it gets. Some fighters achieved more in the past but I doubt anyone in the future will trump him.