Is Roberto Duran overrated?

Yeah, I did. You excused Mayweather's loss to Castillo, to me it is one, with him having an off-night. On he other hand you use Duran's quitting, something he did exactly one in over 100 fights, as a reason for Mayweaher winning. If hat's not a double standard what is it then?

 

Prehaps you should read my statment more carefuly. Had I stated that because Duran quit against Leonard he would have quit in any adverse sittuition. You would be right I would be presenting a dubble standered. However I stated the oppiset. My point was that you can't take a single bad preformance and judge their whole careers or make a prime/prime match up decision based on it.

 

As a GREAT FIGHTER, ABSOLUTELY NOT!! PS. I won't dance on the head of a pin over top three.

 

Ah, now I remember.

 

Both

Underrated: Practically no one ranks him over Henry Armstrong or Ross for that matter who he is flat out better than imo and a comparable resume and the potential if given the chance to hold FW-WW titles simultaneously

Overrated: When people say he was past it/not prepared for all his losses. The myth that get's put about that he wasn't motivated for facing ATG's but was up for facing Davey Moore and Barkley. He had stylistic weaknesses like practically every boxer and his were elite level movement and counter boxers alongside speed but every boxer has issues with speed. His win over Barkley just isn't that good, I mean it's good but not really great and I don't care if he was 70 and he needed a poo in round 6, it doesn't make Barkley great

 

1) good job.
2) some1 merge threads plz.
this , d first 1 :
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=209083
d 2nd 1 , from 2day :
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=346206
3) and some1 else , explain y 2 of d same

 

Duran quit vs. Leonard , Armstrong lasted d distance vs. Walker Smith Jr. .
reminder : Duran was a former 135 vs a 147.
Armstrong a former 126 vs a 147 who became d undisputed 160 king .
Also , Duran was dirty @ 135 , I still didn't read same thing regarding Armstrong @ any weight .
Yes , I rank Armstrong over Duran myself .
And no , I rank Duran over Ross myself .

 

only gans leonard (benny ) could top roberto at light. but how can you say roberto overated he came 1 round of beating great hagler.

 

No. Personally I think he's damn near impossible to over rate.

Sure he quite once and sure he lost some important fights, but at least we know what happened and we got to see him fight. That always means a little more to me than that transpired in the early 1900's where there may have been no footage and time can sometime distort the truth.

For me personally his wins over Leonard and especially Barkley were his defining moments in the ring. They are as good of wins as anything I've seen in my lifetime.

 

I agree with much of what you say here, and this is a fine example of fighters getting overated & underated. the point being it is Impossible to be 100% accurate with any fighters, any of them.

the most accurate & honest evaluation for the litterally thousands of GREAT Fighters is they are/were Great fighters AMONG the greatest of All-time!

 

Overrated no, overrated like ****ing hell!!!! H2h comparing him with monzon, robinson.. Wtf... He lost against every great legend that he faced.. The first fight with leonard is overrated..

 

Every ATG he faced was considerably bigger than him, and younger.If he had faced more ATG'S his own size do you not think he would have faired better?

 

we can talk about the real facts, not about speculation, the legacy of a fighter is not built based on " he could". he faced the guys that he faced. period

 

Fair point but its also a fact that he was LW champ for 7 years then moved up and beat one of the best WW ever who was younger and bigger than him and then moved up and took an ATG MW 15 rounds. As some one mentioned SRR had 19 defeats does that make him overrated?