is Robinson at 147 just flat out unbeatable?

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  1. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    There's nearly no footage of robinson at his prime.
     
  2. Thread Stealer

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    There is footage of Robinson at WW, but the quality is ****.
     
  3. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Some time ago I found a really good movie with 2 hours of robinson's footage. I cannot link in here, because you need TWO MONTHS registered to be able to put a link in here.

    However, if you google "Sugar Ray Robinson Greatest Hits Knock Outs KO Compilation" you can find it in youtube. 2h duration. I love it because usually what I have always found is 5-10 mins duration videos or the same old fights everybody's whatched.

    the description of the youtube video:

    "Hi-lites of Sugar Ray Robinson against the following opponents : Angott, Becket, Riccio, Flores, Giardello, Abrams, Leahy, Villemaine, Panther, Pender, Downes, Barnes, Hecht, Basting, Castallani, Valentine, Archer, Stock, Van Dam, Stretz, Walzack, Saerens, Estatoff, Ancona, Nonnels, Turpin, Graziano, Fusari. . Some of the extremely rare early career hi-lites are silent."
     
  4. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The things I take into consideration when making such a comment are number of fights, level of competition, only one world title on the line, 15 round distance, less padding in the gloves, substandard refereeing by today's far safer standards, time between fights, shorter training camps, boxing in an era when men were men and just plain old HARD....I could go on...
     
  5. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    From what footage I have seen, it is pretty undeniable that Robinson had a number of fantastic attributes. Great footwork, solid defence, rapier like jab, great combination puncher, lethal finisher, 15 round fighter, teak tough, indomitable will to win, fast hands, damn the man was pretty much the perfect fighter. I don't recall anyone ever siting a weakness in his game to be honest
     
  6. Eastpaw

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    no he did not... the guy was relatively easy to hit. people say he had no head movement when he actually did, it was just very minimal. that's why i think floyd can outbox him.
     
  7. tinman

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    How can Floyd outbox him when Robinson starts bashing his skull in?

    http://www.google.com/search?q=ray+robinson+gif&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=37GhVbraLcKeyASYq5qoDw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=360&bih=615#imgrc=pOKd8s3IQwO22M%3A
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Unknowable, just too little film.
     
  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I know there isn't a lot of film. But extrapolate.

    If he was that good as an old and blown up MW then imagine him at 147.
     
  10. Eastpaw

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  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Who says he was old and blown up?

    Was Duran "old and blown up" @ lightweight or welter? He started at bantam, remember.
     
  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't know many offensive fighters that aren't declining shortly into their 30s.
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Shortly into his thirties, Pacquiao was stopping Cotto & Hatton..
     
  14. tinman

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    He would touch him. Robinson is bigger, stronger, faster, higher workrate, very skilled.

    If Floud runs he won't score enough points and gets a wide decision loss.

    This isn't baldimor, Cotto or faded mosley and Pacquiao. It's robinson.
     
  15. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yea at 30 years old. How did he look at 36?

    Robinson looked incredible in his late 30s