The many Jones arse lickers would love to believe that. Fact is he wasn't there nearly long enough to be considered...he may have been the best fighter ever to fight at the weight but like Michael Moorer at 175 did not carve out enough of a legacy there to be considered the greatest.
boys, boys. Let's all calm down and heap praise on JC2006's avatar. Outstanding. Calzaghe is the greatest ever super middleweight, but jones is much the greater fighter. It's like saying SRL's the greatest ever middleweight. He ain't, but he was a greater fighter than, say, Monzon.
I agree with this - at this point I have RJJ ahead of Calzaghe. His resume and fighting skills were better at 168 than JCs, but not far ahead. By defeating Kessler, he would have beaten the at least 2nd best SMW there has been for a long time.
Jones may very well be the best super middle weight ever but he can't ever be regarded as the greatest as he simply didn't acheive enough at 168lbs to be ranked as the greatest.
Roy in his prime beats the brakes of Joe in his prime...this is simply because when Roy was in his PRIME there was NO ONE like him and there still isnt anyone like him.....Joe's toughest comp was Jeff and thats hsi most notable victory as well....Roy in his prime was just too much for fighters.
He very well could have been the greatest, but didn't stay long/do enough when he was there for us to be sure. When judging greatness, you can only do so based on accomplishments and not talent alone. From that standpoint, Joe Gallagher may very well be the greatest (especially if he beats Kessler). Would RJJ beat Gallagher prime vs prime? Most likely, but we'll never know. Based on accomplishments, Gallagher ranks far above Jones @ smw.
As crazy as this sounds......ummmmm, I.........agree......with......China_hand_Joe. About a post that includes Calzaghe??? I dont know what to think. Its like up is down...left is right....Im gonna go cry myself to sleep now.
Who is the best actor: Max von Sydow or Paris Hilton? American fan answer: "Now, I am not a fan of Paris, but Max who?" Being shown on US tv far from (FAR FAR from!) equates quality.
deram.....? WTF are you talking about...lol. There is NO person alive in the US that thinks Paris Hilton is a good actress. She is a celebrity, not an actress...I know people that went to see that god awful House of Wax remake just to watch her get killed. Trust me when I say this, most of America hates the *****. She is a train wreck, that is why we watch her....not for her acting skills. And to be honest, she is a much bigger celebrity in Japan then she is here....MUCH MUCH MUCH BIGGER. So looks like that american hate bull**** thing rears its ugly head again....that **** is really starting to get old on this site.
Your telling me that when Joe was the reigning champ and fighting guys like Rick Thornbury, the division was strong? You are a complete joke. And a nuthugger. You have just lost every shred of credibility right there. Either the division was weak or Joe fought the absolute worst opponents imaginable. Take your pick
He pointed out that Toney was a top 3 p4p fighter with wins over Michael Nunn, Mike McCallum and Iran Barkley. Lacy clearly was not p4p top 3 material. And although he was the favourite and a very credible opponent, he had never beaten the sought of competition that Toney had, and he certainly wasn't as tested. Don't be so biased